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by nightshadetwine
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 3227

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

This is some good stuff man. Have you read Yahweh and the Sun by J. Glen Taylor? https://www.amazon.com/Yahweh-Sun-Biblical-Archaeological-Testament/dp/1850752729 I haven't. I'll check it out. And to add to this further, Jesus is even compared to the sun/Helios in Matthew 17:2 καὶ μετεμορφώθη ἔμπρο...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The raising of Lazarus and baptism/initiation?
Replies: 11
Views: 1430

Re: The raising of Lazarus and baptism/initiation?

* there's lots of commentary about mouths from Recitation 23, including a mouth opening ritual, the mouth opening meal, - including lots of bread and wine, - cleaning the mouth, spells for the power of nourishment, including Recitation 117 - "Osirus Unis, accept the pupil of Horus's eye: part your ...
by nightshadetwine
Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 3227

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

I wonder if there could be a deeper connection between Judaism's and Egypt's use of the lunar calendar? After all, both Osiris and Elohim are by and large lunar gods, or gods represented by the moon, and both are vital for the marking of seasons and agriculture. And we already have evidence of a hi...
by nightshadetwine
Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 3227

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

No, I'm going off the same sources as well. I fully admit that the texts themselves note a three day period, but how this is calculated is a matter of dispute. Example all the festival calendars that I am aware of (Abydos and Denderah, yeah all two of them!) have a four day period when Osiris goes ...
by nightshadetwine
Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 3227

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

So, for example, Osiris being dead for four days.... I am on a web page which purports to be a translation by Faulkner and two others: https://www.pyramidtextsonline.com/translation.html , and I can find nothing (yet?) about Osiris being dead for four days. Lots and lots of instructions to recite s...
by nightshadetwine
Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The raising of Lazarus and baptism/initiation?
Replies: 11
Views: 1430

Re: The raising of Lazarus and baptism/initiation?

Giuseppe wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:00 am
written in the wrong thread.
I guess this post would fit in your thread. Didn't want to hijack it though or go too off topic.
by nightshadetwine
Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The raising of Lazarus and baptism/initiation?
Replies: 11
Views: 1430

Re: The raising of Lazarus and baptism/initiation?

Great post nightshadetwine! Definitely gives me something to mull over. If Lazarus can be shown to be an inference of the baptism ritual, then it may lend more credit to my theory that Paul and John/ur-John are of the same tradition. Thanks. I figured you would find it interesting. What are some of...
by nightshadetwine
Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The raising of Lazarus and baptism/initiation?
Replies: 11
Views: 1430

The raising of Lazarus and baptism/initiation?

I came across two sources that compare the raising of Lazarus to baptism/initiation and I'm wondering if anyone knows of any other scholars that make this connection? The Baptismal Raising of Lazarus: A New Interpretation of John 11, Bernhard Lang, Novum Testamentum 58 (2016) 301-317 https://www.aca...
by nightshadetwine
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation
Replies: 125
Views: 9555

Re: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation

1) Incorrect. I'm saying what it means to "rise" or "resurrect" is culturally specific and therefore, the fact that a myth seems similar on the surface has no bearing on whether or not it constitutes the *same* or a *parallel* myth elsewhere. Yes, the way Osiris rises or resurrects is in an Egyptia...
by nightshadetwine
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation
Replies: 125
Views: 9555

Re: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation

Actually, it does matter. Egyptians did not conceptualize him as living in the same way a person was. He was living in his own right, but not the same as a human on earth. It is well worth noting because this is on conflict juxtaposition to how Jesus rises. Jesus is alive in every way we are to Chr...