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by Joseph D. L.
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.
Replies: 11
Views: 214

Re: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.

A cow gave birth to a lamb? Huh. I really didn't see that one coming. :o Like you I think these little tidbits make up a potential source for early Christianity ... Michael Crouch believed that this was just how Josephus understood Christians and their wacky, zany beliefs. Who made who? Perhaps Cro...
by Joseph D. L.
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.
Replies: 11
Views: 214

Re: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.

Josephus also implies that God had removed Himself from the Temple. This is consistent with what he wrote about how God had abandoned Jerusalem and the Temple due to the actions of robbers and the High Priests: At the same festival also, a heifer, as she was led by the high priest to be sacrificed,...
by Joseph D. L.
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.
Replies: 11
Views: 214

Re: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.

A cow gave birth to a lamb? Huh. I really didn't see that one coming. :o Lots of early / medieval nativity art show a cow or ox right next to the stable. That's the point where Columbo would go "one more thing." The obvious symbolism of the heifer giving birth to a lamb is what is sealing...
by Joseph D. L.
Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus again
Replies: 26
Views: 497

Re: Josephus again

I'm more of a 'one hand washes the other' kind of guy myself. Hegesippus was definitely using Josephus for some heinous propaganda and the conspiratorial side me wonders how much of Josephus is authentic and how much is really Hegesippus. If Luke-Acts and Mark drew upon Josephus, the question we sho...
by Joseph D. L.
Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.
Replies: 11
Views: 214

Re: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.

A cow gave birth to a lamb? Huh. I really didn't see that one coming. :o Like you I think these little tidbits make up a potential source for early Christianity. Maybe source is the inappropriate word as it infers a kind of difference between the two. Michael Crouch believed that this was just how J...
by Joseph D. L.
Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.
Replies: 11
Views: 214

Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.

https://penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/war-6.html In discussing the leadup to the the destruction of Jerusalem, Josephus mentions a series of signs that foretold this horrible event. They were 1. a star in the shape of a sword appearing in the sky, 2. a comet which was visible for a whole year, 3. D...
by Joseph D. L.
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus again
Replies: 26
Views: 497

Re: Josephus again

The story of Jesus started in Ant. And was developed by ghostwriters in letters, in gospels. With invented tradition to cover the past. Is Jesus a historical person? It is a question to Josephus. Probably He is historical Michael Crouch thought that Jesus ben Ananias was the only authentic an allus...
by Joseph D. L.
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
Replies: 46
Views: 945

Re: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist

Carrier always came off as having an authority complex. When his books on historical Jesus studies came out he was quick to claim that he was the first credentialed scholar to undertake this topic (and to salvage it from the other mythicists who he says did more to discredit it), which shows a need ...
by Joseph D. L.
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
Replies: 46
Views: 945

Re: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist

This is interesting. Would Marcion think that the Jesus cycle existed/took place in a Platonic-esque world of forms? In that way it would be possible to say these things are real while also being ahistorical. His Gospel has Jesus coming down to a specific region in a specific time, but how much is s...
by Joseph D. L.
Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were Marcionites keepers of the original Christian faith?
Replies: 19
Views: 539

Re: Were Marcionites keepers of the original Christian faith?

... the structure of the belief is Paul being translated up to Heaven to be reborn out of the jurisdiction of the law, and he becomes an envoy for this new covenant, the gospel of Jesus. I think this is something that needs to be stressed a little more. Paul is not suggesting that Torah is now null...