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In all seriousness I guess I will participate in the discussion in earnest. Firstly, my thinking about Marcion and his relation with the early Christian movement tries to take into account various systems theories (information, cybernetics, world system, psychoanalysis, and so on) in order to get a ...

That, I think, is Marcionism. I am Marcion, the Man of Pontus, because we are all Marcion, Man of Pontus. Each of us attempts to recreate the world to fit how we can best economize it to suite our understanding of it so we can cope and survive. Marcion is human psychology. Marcion is human philosop...

Indeed. My entire methodology or experiment has been an attempt to disentangle how we think in the context of Christianity so as to get to a purer understanding of it. Maybe I was wrong. Could Josephus himself be doing the same thing? He is doing something similar with his account of signs? He is as...

As Peter noted, the thread isn't about trying to prove one theory or another, but rather what is people's best guess about how Marcion fits into early Christianity? I'm interested in reading the range of views people have developed based on their intuition, and not challenging anyone to 'prove' tha...

I don't follow this logical succession. Even taking my niche and amateurish observation as possible would mean that, in this hypothetical context, Josephus did know about Christianity, or at least some potential source for what would be Christianity in the future. But I don't think you're appreciati...

A cow gave birth to a lamb? Huh. I really didn't see that one coming. :o Like you I think these little tidbits make up a potential source for early Christianity ... Michael Crouch believed that this was just how Josephus understood Christians and their wacky, zany beliefs. Who made who? Perhaps Cro...

Josephus also implies that God had removed Himself from the Temple. This is consistent with what he wrote about how God had abandoned Jerusalem and the Temple due to the actions of robbers and the High Priests: At the same festival also, a heifer, as she was led by the high priest to be sacrificed,...

A cow gave birth to a lamb? Huh. I really didn't see that one coming. :o Lots of early / medieval nativity art show a cow or ox right next to the stable. That's the point where Columbo would go "one more thing." The obvious symbolism of the heifer giving birth to a lamb is what is sealing...

I'm more of a 'one hand washes the other' kind of guy myself. Hegesippus was definitely using Josephus for some heinous propaganda and the conspiratorial side me wonders how much of Josephus is authentic and how much is really Hegesippus. If Luke-Acts and Mark drew upon Josephus, the question we sho...

A cow gave birth to a lamb? Huh. I really didn't see that one coming. :o Like you I think these little tidbits make up a potential source for early Christianity. Maybe source is the inappropriate word as it infers a kind of difference between the two. Michael Crouch believed that this was just how J...