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by andrewcriddle
Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Replies: 28
Views: 684

Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke

Since this is the only one you commented on, can I assume you agree with all there rest of the points :-) *chuckle* No you can't. Marcion is trying in good faith to prepare a critical edition of the original Gospel using Luke as a basis, then it is IMO plausible that he would be reluctant to remove...
by andrewcriddle
Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 80
Views: 1571

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

He became a Christian, by interacting with Christians. As this was the first generation of Christians, they *all* became christians by interacting with Christians! By the same place I mean "the Land of Israel." When you say "the Land of Israel" I wonder if you are having a simil...
by andrewcriddle
Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Clement and truthy-ness
Replies: 1
Views: 59

Re: Clement and truthy-ness

There is a general issue here. The letter if authentic is intended to reassure Theodore of the truth of orthodox Christianity. However, its effect on Theodore is likely to be rather different.

Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:55 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Timo S. Paananen's Dissertation on "Admissible Concealed Indicators"
Replies: 2
Views: 109

Re: Timo S. Paananen's Dissertation on "Admissible Concealed Indicators"

To a limited extent I agree with Panaanen. Some of the arguments linking Morton Smith to the Mar Saba letter do appear flimsy. (After reading and enjoying Anglo-Saxon attitudes I do not believe it influenced in any way the author of the Mar Saba letter.) However there is a general problem; claiming ...
by andrewcriddle
Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 80
Views: 1571

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

Ken, one of the reasons Secret Mark can persuade about its authenticity is that it gives a detailed explanation about what Jesus went to do in Jericho (an explanation that is absent in Mark). Secret Mark clearly solves a problem in canonical Mark which troubles modern readers more than it apparentl...
by andrewcriddle
Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Replies: 28
Views: 684

Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke

................................................... More recent commentators https://sites.google.com/site/inglisonmarcion/home/marcion/marcions-gospel-and-the-synoptic-problem/is-marcions-gospel-based-on-mark have noted that the "omissions" by Marcion are strange in another way: They are...
by andrewcriddle
Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 9
Views: 269

Re: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"

Singular or plural? Here is Smith's translation from Secret Gospel (1973) page 17: "....But "naked [man] with naked [man]" and the other things about which you wrote are not found." In the Clement book (1973) page 447: "...But "naked man with naked man," ..."...
by andrewcriddle
Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:24 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Replies: 31
Views: 856

Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter

IIUC we are not only dealing with isolated unusual letter formations scattered through the letter. There seem to be consistent usages. For example the omicron upsilon with circumflex word ending occurs around 30 times in the letter. It looks to be normal cursive at first glance but it seems to be c...
by andrewcriddle
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:26 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Replies: 31
Views: 856

Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter

IIUC we are not only dealing with isolated unusual letter formations scattered through the letter. There seem to be consistent usages. For example the omicron upsilon with circumflex word ending occurs around 30 times in the letter. It looks to be normal cursive at first glance but it seems to be co...
by andrewcriddle
Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 42
Views: 903

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

"MS got early liturgy wrong." Wrong for what fit Clement in Egypt. This, supported from, iirc, Robin Jenson (a Columbia grad, I think), and Peter Jeffrey, an early liturgy specialist, and a colleague prof of Smith's at Columbia. I entirely agree that liturgical explanations of Secret Mark...