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by andrewcriddle
Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is Celsus simply possibilist about a historical Jesus, but not really "historicist"?
Replies: 13
Views: 173

Re: Is Celsus simply possibilist about a historical Jesus, but not really "historicist"?

Celsus seems to accept that a historical Jesus existed. He appears to be more dubious as to the historical basis of the miracle stories about Jesus.

Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:57 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Is the lack of demons in OT unusual?
Replies: 12
Views: 472

Re: Is the lack of demons in OT unusual?

The OT is clearly hostile to dealings between the living and the dead. See the witch of Endor narrative.

Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can anyone help me in Luke 23,34?
Replies: 47
Views: 3154

Re: Can anyone help me in Luke 23,34?

Jose, Hopefully this table will help put things together. ANF volume [/b] page [/b] Author [/b] Title [/b] Where [/b] Language [/b] What is said: [/b] RSV n/a Anonymous Acts of the Apostles 7:60 Greek And he [Stephen the Hellenist, as he was being stoned after being cast down from the temple wall] ...
by andrewcriddle
Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Works of Irenaeus of Lyon and Origins translated into Latin are reliable?
Replies: 14
Views: 737

Re: Works of Irenaeus of Lyon and Origins translated into Latin are reliable?

Just for the sake of the spirit of the discussion, here is an analysis of the Latin translation of Irenaeus' AH 3.16.9 compared to Luke 23:34 Vulgate: Irenaeus, AH 3.16.9 (Harvey) [/b] Irenaeus, AH 3.16.9 (ANF vol 1) [/b] 1 Peter 2:23 (Vulgate) [/b] 1 Peter 2:23 (Douay Rheems) [/b] qui cum vapulare...
by andrewcriddle
Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Works of Irenaeus of Lyon and Origins translated into Latin are reliable?
Replies: 14
Views: 737

Re: Works of Irenaeus of Lyon and Origins translated into Latin are reliable?

If Origins should be Origen then the Latin translations of Origen are of doubtful reliability.
Most of the translations were made by Rufinus c. 400 CE and it is clear that Rufinus updated and censored Origen in order to conform to late 4th century orthodoxy.

Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Irenaeus Says that the Valentinians Used the Johannine Prologue Rather than the Gospel of John as Such
Replies: 25
Views: 6041

Re: Irenaeus Says that the Valentinians Used the Johannine Prologue Rather than the Gospel of John as Such

We know from Origen that the early Valentinian Heracleon wrote a commentary on the Gospel of John. (The Gospel not just the prologue.)

Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)
Replies: 40
Views: 9180

Re: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)

Origen makes a connection with the parable of the vineyard with the 11th hour = the resurrection Interesting, thanks. Do you remember where? (And please don't call people idiots, that's not very nice at all!) Possibly http://www.lectionarycentral.com/septuag/Origen.html I think this is from the com...
by andrewcriddle
Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 17287

Re: Philip

I think it unlikely that Paul would have been given authority to persecute Christians over positions that were only objectionable to the Pharisees.

Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What are the oldest manuscripts we have of modern liturgies used in the Catholic, Orthodox, and non-Chalc. churches?
Replies: 3
Views: 1008

Re: What are the oldest manuscripts we have of modern liturgies used in the Catholic, Orthodox, and non-Chalc. churches?

The Apostolic Tradition attributed to Hippolytus probably dates from the first half of the third century.
There is a fragmentary Latin Manuscript dating from the fifth century.

Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)
Replies: 40
Views: 9180

Re: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)

SSee Hippolytus Apostolic Tradition for the prayers of the hours. 5If you are at home, pray at the third hour and praise God. If you are elsewhere at that time, pray in your heart to God. 6For in this hour Christ was seen nailed to the wood. And thus in the Old Testament the Law instructed that the ...