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Secret Alias wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:42 am

Just asking. I think it was just the prologue. And maybe the reference to the Paraclete.

Well Heracleon wrote a commentary on John

Andrew Criddle

It is possible that the mention of Marcus in Tertullian's anti-Valentinian works is based on the Marcus the Valentinian whom Irenaeus claims performed magical rituals.

Andrew Criddle

Giuseppe wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:03 am

Mark 9:29 :

And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting

and fasting is probably not original in Mark 9:29
See for example In the name of Jesus

Andrew Criddle

Should we not add the lack of a Jesus origin story, including genealogy, as an additional Markan reader's presumption element. If we stick with actual extant writings, this would make Luke and/or Matthew circulating before Mark No. Those elements depend upon the kind of story being told; their abse...

This is from 3 Enoch which is a very late source (probably after 500 CE) Parallels with the NT may reflect a Babylonian Jewish response to Christianity. Andrew Criddle I don't know of a reason excluding an earlier date, to be honest. But that's just me. See here for a discussion of the date of 3 En...

This is from 3 Enoch which is a very late source (probably after 500 CE) Parallels with the NT may reflect a Babylonian Jewish response to Christianity.

Andrew Criddle

See Josephus Antiquities Book XV! chapter 6 section 2 ἔδοξέ μοι καὶ τῷ ἐμῷ συμβουλίῳ μετὰ ὁρκωμοσίας γνώμῃ δήμου Ῥωμαίων τοὺς Ἰουδαίους χρῆσθαι τοῖς ἰδίοις θεσμοῖς κατὰ τὸν πάτριον αὐτῶν νόμον, καθὼς ἐχρῶντο ἐπὶ Ὑρκανοῦ ἀρχιερέως θεοῦ ὑψίστου, τά τε ἱερὰ * εἶναι ἐν ἀσυλίᾳ καὶ ἀναπέμπεσθαι εἰς Ἱεροσό...

So now you're making a distinction between the story and the reader, yet you impose your own morality onto the Barabbas episode when you say that no Jew would follow an insurrectionist murderer. I insist again and again (the thing starts to be boring): by the time the Gospels were written, in Rome ...

I often accuse Watson of eisegesis. But then maybe I am guilty this time. In his Irenaeus is here dependent on Papias. Papias speaks of the Elder John along with Aristion as “disciples of the Lord,” and Irenaeus identifies this “disciple of the Lord” with the “disciple whom Jesus loved,” the putati...

It is possible that the 1548 date on the manuscript is a later addition. The manuscript may be authentic in the sense of a genuine 16th century witness to the Marian apparitions, but date from the late 16th century rather than the mid 16th century.

Andrew Criddle