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by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John of Gischala "was scandalized" at the news about Josephus and Jesus ben Sapphat
Replies: 1
Views: 31

Re: John of Gischala "was scandalized" at the news about Josephus and Jesus ben Sapphat

This finding gives a different reconstruction of the Origins, one where Jesus ben Sapphat was originally an enemy of John of Gischala and only later he received the his "baptism", i.e. when Jesus ben Sapphat abandoned the Galilee and worked under the high command of John of Gischala during...
by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John of Gischala "was scandalized" at the news about Josephus and Jesus ben Sapphat
Replies: 1
Views: 31

John of Gischala "was scandalized" at the news about Josephus and Jesus ben Sapphat

I see that the following passage in *Ev: 18 And when John the Baptist heard about all these things, he was scandalized. 19 And John calling unto him a certain two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that cometh? or look we for another? (*Ev 7:18-19) ...is based on Vita 25 of Jos...
by Giuseppe
Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Replies: 29
Views: 702

Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke

he would be reluctant to remove material from his corrected Luke which was paralleled in Matthew and/or Mark. I can understand a Marcion interested to follow Mark (being Mark a gentilizing gospel, afterall, in virtue of the principle similis cum similibus ), but I can't understand how Marcion could...
by Giuseppe
Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 80
Views: 1581

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

Ken, one of the reasons Secret Mark can persuade about its authenticity is that it gives a detailed explanation about what Jesus went to do in Jericho (an explanation that is absent in Mark). Secret Mark clearly solves a problem in canonical Mark which troubles modern readers more than it apparentl...
by Giuseppe
Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: External evidence that (Matthew and) canonical Luke comes after *Ev
Replies: 2
Views: 71

External evidence that (Matthew and) canonical Luke comes after *Ev

1 Timothy 3-4, even if a Catholic epistle, is still reluctant to accept the genealogies found in the incipit of Matthew and Canonical Luke. 3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer 4 or to devote...
by Giuseppe
Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Reconstructing the original story of Paul
Replies: 16
Views: 283

Re: Reconstructing the original story of Paul

The connection of Paul with "the baptism of John", even if in a convoluted way ( that John is made a gentilizer in virtue of being the teacher of the gentilizer called Apollos), is very much suspected, docet Vinzent in Christ's Torah . Because also Jesus has been connected artificially (an...
by Giuseppe
Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel priority
Replies: 124
Views: 14771

Re: Gospel priority

This is a thought on the "Gospel priority":

It cannot be a coincidence that the Markan priority has been abandoned especially by scholars and/or amateurs who have seen the prominent role of Marcionites in the fabrication of the "pauline" epistles.

Trobisch is an example.
by Giuseppe
Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 80
Views: 1581

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

Of course Luke derived from *Ev the idea of a spiritual entity descending on the earth in 3:2:

in the 15° year of Tiberius [...] the word of God descended on John son of Zechariah in the wilderness

The "word of God" is the Logos.
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 80
Views: 1581

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

Ken, one of the reasons Secret Mark can persuade about its authenticity is that it gives a detailed explanation about what Jesus went to do in Jericho (an explanation that is absent in Mark).
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 80
Views: 1581

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

I think that " doubtless " in the Jesus's answer is a strong clue pointing to an explanation found inside the story itself of the gospel of Luke, not assumed a priori external to that gospel (i.e. possibly in Mark). " Doubtless " in Jesus's answer explains also why *Ev were to c...