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by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 32
Views: 204

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Klinghardt gives me reason on this point: The Markan report of Jesus’ baptism not only places the beginning of the Gospel into a framework of salvation history, it also provides the opportunity to have God himself proclaim the true identity of Jesus as ‘my beloved son’ (Mark 1,11). Compared to Jesus...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 32
Views: 204

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

They could also read this as the higher good God declaring Jesus. It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite. WRONG! It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Basilidian. It is clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite . Please like the difference. No. How can you answ...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 32
Views: 204

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

They could also read this as the higher good God declaring Jesus. It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite. WRONG! It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Basilidian. It is clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite . Please like the difference. No. How can you answ...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 32
Views: 204

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Peter Kirby wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:32 am

They could also read this as the higher good God declaring Jesus. It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite.
WRONG! It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Basilidian. It is clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite.

Please like the difference.
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 32
Views: 204

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Mark makes it clear the identity of the god who sent the spirit who defended Jesus against the temptations in the wilderness who otherwise would have won his human nature: And a voice came from heaven: “ You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased .” At once the Spirit sent him out into...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 32
Views: 204

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Psalm 2:7 is spoken by YHWH : 7 I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you. Isaiah 42:1 is spoken by YHWH : 1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen, in whom my soul delights; I have put my Spirit upon him; he will bring forth justice to the natio...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 32
Views: 204

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Mark makes it clear the identity of the god who sent the spirit who defended Jesus against the temptations in the wilderness who otherwise would have won his human nature: And a voice came from heaven: “ You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased .” At once the Spirit sent him out into...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 32
Views: 204

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

If the Temptation Story didn't target Marcion and was a mere general innocent concept, then how do you explain this curious "signature" by Mark ? But the Mark's solution betrayes the presence of Marcionites who would have accused easily: humanity == infection of sin. Mark's answer: humani...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 32
Views: 204

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

If the Temptation Story didn't target Marcion and was a mere general innocent concept, then how do you explain this curious "signature" by Mark ? But the Mark's solution betrayes the presence of Marcionites who would have accused easily: humanity == infection of sin. Mark's answer: humanit...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 32
Views: 204

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

And somehow only Marcionites ever considered the idea that humans are sinful, so it relates to Marcionism... that is indeed the implication, since it is a fact that "only Marcionites ever considered the idea that human births are sinful , so the birth via holy spirit relates to Marcionism"...