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by Giuseppe
Mon May 13, 2024 8:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The refusal of a sign as a Judaizing passage found in *Ev
Replies: 2
Views: 78

Re: The refusal of a sign as a Judaizing passage found in *Ev

This is the problem with the gospels. Even *Ev is a receptacle of different theologies, therefore Marcion was not so free from partial compromises with the ideology of the his own opponents. Well, assuming that he wrote the Evangelion. Alternately, he just received a text, like virtually everybody ...
by Giuseppe
Mon May 13, 2024 8:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew 23:7 as evidence of the euhemerization of the evil archontes
Replies: 3
Views: 84

Re: Matthew 23:7 as evidence of the euhemerization of the evil archontes

Sour Milk Sea wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 6:00 pmWhat's the reason to replace rabbi with kyrioi?
Wikipedia gives the reason:

The root is cognate to Arabic ربّ rabb, meaning "lord" (generally used when talking about God, but also about temporal lords), and to the Syriac word ܪܒܝ rabi.

by Giuseppe
Mon May 13, 2024 7:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Woe on Unrepentant Capernaum explained by the memory of the martyrdom of Jesus in Capernaum
Replies: 0
Views: 51

The Woe on Unrepentant Capernaum explained by the memory of the martyrdom of Jesus in Capernaum

Matthew 11:20-24: 20 Then Jesus began to denounce the towns in which most of his miracles had been performed, because they did not repent. 21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented lo...
by Giuseppe
Mon May 13, 2024 6:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The refusal of a sign as a Judaizing passage found in *Ev
Replies: 2
Views: 78

The refusal of a sign as a Judaizing passage found in *Ev

When the crowd gathered with him, he began to speak, "This generation is an evil generation. It demands a sign, but a sign will be given to it". (*Ev 11:29) Why is it a judaizing passage? Because the Temptation Story makes it clear that Jesus has to give no sign at all (apart the resurrec...
by Giuseppe
Mon May 13, 2024 4:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Replies: 17
Views: 389

Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?

I see that you have already answered here to my question, by claiming that the Basilidean proto-Mark didn't know the pauline/cerdonite epistles: Did Basilides know of Cerdo’s work on the Pauline letters? Not necessarily . The overlap may just be due to common material and family resemblance. Both Ba...
by Giuseppe
Mon May 13, 2024 4:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Replies: 17
Views: 389

Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?

I think a Basilidean proto-Mark was earlier. My perplexity with your view is that you are saying that Basilides wrote the first gospel after that Cerdon had expanded the pauline epistles (by adding Satornilian materials) and before that Marcion published them (with *Ev and the antithesis). How coul...
by Giuseppe
Sun May 12, 2024 6:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew 23:7 as evidence of the euhemerization of the evil archontes
Replies: 3
Views: 84

Matthew 23:7 as evidence of the euhemerization of the evil archontes

Matthew 23:7: they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called 'Rabbi' by others. Replace 'rabbi' with 'Kyrioi' and you have: they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called 'Kyrioi' by others. It is clear that the opposition is mythical in characte...
by Giuseppe
Sun May 12, 2024 12:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Three macroscopical errors by Alfred Loisy
Replies: 0
Views: 70

Three macroscopical errors by Alfred Loisy

In his Histoire et mythe à propos de Jésus-Christ , Alfred Loisy wanted to attack frontally Paul-Louis Couchoud because, in his own words: ...j'ai le droit, même le devoir, de dire mon mot sur un problème qui n'intéresse pas que le passé du christianisme mais l'avenir de la religion dans le monde. (...
by Giuseppe
Sat May 11, 2024 8:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Last nail on the Testimonium Flavianum. Again.
Replies: 5
Views: 231

Re: Last nail on the Testimonium Flavianum. Again.

What is more wrong in Allen and Bermejo-Rubio is the idea that the polemical target of the evangelists (or "their sources") were perennial enemies who knew embarrassing truths about the historical Jesus. The consensus is victim of a similar error, insofar it insists that the enemies of the...
by Giuseppe
Sat May 11, 2024 10:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Replies: 17
Views: 389

Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?

And Cerdo too, I suspect, put together proto-Luke (from proto-Mark, gMatthew, and who-knows-what else.) Isn't it more logical, given your premises about how the pauline epistles evolved, that the first gospel was the same gospel in use among the first Christians who " padded out Paul’s bare-bo...