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by Giuseppe
Mon May 06, 2024 12:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Replies: 48
Views: 6860

Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'

What is the point for which this is a case? And how does this make the case for that point? The point I am making thanks to Stuart's quote is that when a major precisation is made about god (in the specific case raised by Stuart in Mark 10:6 and 13:19: the attribute of creator ) then we are fully j...
by Giuseppe
Mon May 06, 2024 11:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Replies: 48
Views: 6860

Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'

Case in point (for which I am immensely grateful to Stuart): If there is anything in Mark that is possibly anti-Marcionite, and I think it's not specifically targeting Marcionites, as many gnostic teachings had the creator a lower entity than the father, then it would be verses 10:6 and 13:19. Mark ...
by Giuseppe
Mon May 06, 2024 10:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier - Goodacre conversation on the historicity of Jesus
Replies: 27
Views: 523

Re: Carrier - Goodacre conversation on the historicity of Jesus

JarekS wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 9:57 am DCHindleyI will be happy to read it, especially since I have just read Robert Wipper's Rome and Early Christianity.
Is there some possibility that this Wipper's book can be translated in English? :whistling:
by Giuseppe
Mon May 06, 2024 10:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism
Replies: 16
Views: 279

Re: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism

I invite to read Christ's Torah of Markus Vinzent.

I am angry with Martijn Linssen because he invited me to buy it in an ebook version, which I did.

At contrary it deserves to be read in the paper version.
by Giuseppe
Mon May 06, 2024 10:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Replies: 48
Views: 6860

Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'

Well, it could be food/daily sustenance, one of the necessities of life, as in 'Give us each day our daily bread.' Hardly so, since we are talking about the Evangelion of Marcion, and a similar case is proto-John, where the Paraclete, as a gift sent by the Father (probably not YHWH in proto -John) ...
by Giuseppe
Mon May 06, 2024 9:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism
Replies: 16
Views: 279

Re: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism

Cool—-can you tell me how it is even possible to leave the Beatitudes on the cutting room floor? Ev priority over Mark solves a lot of problems, but I just can see anybody taking a razor blade to the Beatitudes. How is that even possible? The Beatitudes are pure marcionite theology: the woes, meant...
by Giuseppe
Mon May 06, 2024 9:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism
Replies: 16
Views: 279

Re: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism

RandyHelzerman wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 9:20 am
Giuseppe wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 9:06 am you are talking to a *Ev prioritist,

A prioritist of Ev over Luke, or over Luke and Mark?
over Mark, Matthew and Luke (in that order).
by Giuseppe
Mon May 06, 2024 9:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier - Goodacre conversation on the historicity of Jesus
Replies: 27
Views: 523

Re: Carrier - Goodacre conversation on the historicity of Jesus

Sometimes it happens to me fear for the life of Carrier when I remember that in America there is free circulation of firearms.
by Giuseppe
Mon May 06, 2024 9:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism
Replies: 16
Views: 279

Re: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism

Another evidence of Markan antifeminism and anti-marcionism:

the episode of the Peter’s mother-in-law being healed by Jesus (so that she could "wait on them") was designed to legitimize married apostles (in contrast to Marcionite celibacy).