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*Ev has the verse 9:17 in Klinghardt's reconstruction: And they ate, and all were satisfied. And what was left over in bits was gathered up: twelve baskets . It seems to me that the fact that 12 baskets were left (full of food not eaten) means that all the tribes of the world ate from the spiritual ...

The beginning was Paul and stories about Paul if Paul existed and wrote the epistles (and after someone collected the epistles) you are basically correct. But what if, as some are going to say these days, all the letters of Paul were fabricated " in the school of Marcion " ? It seems to m...

I understand now why Matthias Klinghardt and Markus Vinzent are reluctant to assume that all the Pauline letters ‘ortas esse in Cerdonis vel Marcionitarum scholis’ , which means: they had been written in Marcionite/Kerdo’s school and firstly collected by ‘schoolmaster’ Marcion: Klinghardt may not mo...

Bob Price followed this model (I use the past 'followed' because recently he seems to be ready to change opinion): Marcion's Apostolikon ----> first (lost) gospel ---> Mark ---> *Ev --> others David Trobisch follows apparently this model: Marcion published *Ev + the Apostolikon ---> Mark ---> others...

I see that Tertullian gives a clue about how Marcion interpreted the calming of the storm: But what manner of man is this? For He commands even the winds and water! Luke 8:25 Of course He is the new master and proprietor of the elements, now that the Creator is deposed, and excluded from their posse...

Take for example the stilling of the storm. From BeDuhn's *Ev: Why don't you use Klinghardt's *Ev? If we acknowledge that the stilling of the storm is a scene based on Psalm 107 then we have several issues to contend with. Firstly, the scene in Mark is closer to Psalm 107 than the scene in Luke/*Ev...

Marcion is thought to having insight into Paul, either as creator or earliest recogniser of Paul's letters, then Paul's use of "archontes" arguably refers to humans. as creator of pauline epistles you are right, but in the hypothesis of Marcion "earliest recognizer of Paul's letters&...

Wells confutes your "if and only if" on Paul: Perhaps Doherty's strongest point is Paul's assertion (1 Cor.2:8) that Jesus was crucified by supernatural forces (the archontes ). I take this to mean that they prompted the action of human agents: but I must admit that the text ascribes the ...

The Gerasene demonic would be Paul and is found in both Mark and *Ev. How could he be there if Paul the Persecutor was a Catholic interpolation?

The only possible explanation is that the Gerasene demonic was associated with Paul only after that Paul the Persecutor was interpolated in Galatians 1.

Find the only difference: Mark 9:38-41 38 “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.” 39 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40 for...