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by Giuseppe
Fri May 10, 2024 6:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Replies: 6
Views: 91

Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?

it seems that, insofar you use these words, you are unaware of the best cases against the authenticity of all the pauline epistles. I mean: the radical critics, Detering, Price. I do n't mean Bruno Bauer, even if he is the first of the radical critics. I am not saying that they are right. I am sayi...
by Giuseppe
Fri May 10, 2024 5:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Replies: 6
Views: 91

Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?

I have found the answer by the greatest of the radical critics: Van Manen . Van Manen is a perfect precursor of Matthias Klinghardt when the former described the Earliest Gospel in the following terms: As for their origin, the Gospels, on close comparison, point us back to (i.) an «oldest» written g...
by Giuseppe
Fri May 10, 2024 5:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Replies: 6
Views: 91

Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?

thus to say the Simonians were involved in the composition of the original epistles becomes: a corrupted form of the Simonians were involved in the composition which becomes: a corruption of something original created the epistles it seems that, insofar you use these words, you are unaware of the b...
by Giuseppe
Thu May 09, 2024 11:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?
Replies: 13
Views: 199

Re: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?

Does the answer to your question really matter? I think it would matter to mythicists (as probably Sinouhe) who think that the author of the first gospel had to invent the entire Jesus's biography ex nihilo , including the date under Pilate. Even starting with the date itself. I think that it doesn'...
by Giuseppe
Thu May 09, 2024 8:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Replies: 6
Views: 91

Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?

The thread assumes that only on the premise that Simonians, Cerdonites and Marcionites wrote the original epistles, it is credible the thesis of an entirely fabricated corpus of epistles. Otherwise it is not credible and not worthy of attention.
by Giuseppe
Thu May 09, 2024 8:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Replies: 6
Views: 91

What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?

Usually it is recognized among radical critics that all the Pauline letters ‘ ortas esse in Cerdonis vel Marcionitarum scholis ’, that means: they had been written in Marcionite/Kerdo’s school and firstly collected by ‘schoolmaster’ Marcion. Cerdon was said to be the follower of Simon Magus hence le...
by Giuseppe
Thu May 09, 2024 9:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ellegard's Argument from Notoriety to fix Jesus under Pilate
Replies: 1
Views: 108

Ellegard's Argument from Notoriety to fix Jesus under Pilate

The crucifixion as such provided yet another clue. Palestine was under Roman rule, and the death penalty was the privilege of the Roman procurator. Now the only early first century Roman prefect or procurator of Palestine who was widely known (indeed, the only one about whom Philo and Josephus have...
by Giuseppe
Wed May 08, 2024 9:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism
Replies: 25
Views: 565

Re: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism

Usually the explanation given to the phenomenon by you described is that the first gospel (give the name that you want) is not an homogeneous text because it contains pericopes from different sources originated in different communities. Therefore it makes still sense to talk in terms of "first ...
by Giuseppe
Wed May 08, 2024 3:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism
Replies: 25
Views: 565

Re: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism

Ev was written by Luke and Matthew for me it is an unacceptable conclusion. Klinghardt or Harnack? I can concede willingly that *Ev is the top of the iceberg of multiple redactions, editings, dated back ultimately to an only scriptorium and hence to a lost proto-gospel. I don't concede that some of...