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by Giuseppe
Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bob Price on the reason why Jesus IS Adam
Replies: 9
Views: 147

Re: Bob Price on the reason why Jesus IS Adam

There's nothing to explain. Adam was created 'according to the likeness.' What's the likeness? It's not that you ask the WRONG questions - you don't ask questions. You use citations to direct you (or us by our misfortune of knowing you) to conclusions you've already reached. for your knowledge, the...
by Giuseppe
Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus from Outer Space
Replies: 115
Views: 31334

Re: Jesus from Outer Space

Richard Carrier explains why this strange cover: It’s an original painting by artist Rena Davonne. It’s intended to be psychadelic-conceptual, in keeping with the mystical and hallucinatory origins of the religion , and the mod-style feeling of the title. It evokes an aesthetic and an abstraction; i...
by Giuseppe
Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bob Price on the reason why Jesus IS Adam
Replies: 9
Views: 147

Re: Bob Price on the reason why Jesus IS Adam

I don't want to get too deeply involved in a discussion with someone that I don't respect. then please you should be more coherent with your own logic: don't dirty my threads when I quote a myth of Jesus/Adam from a book where YHWH is the evil demiurge. I can imagine the corpses of those Gnostics (...
by Giuseppe
Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bob Price on the reason why Jesus IS Adam
Replies: 9
Views: 147

Re: Bob Price on the reason why Jesus IS Adam

Note that when Bob Price says: This sounds to me like an express repudiation of the Genesis version, asserting not that Christ refused to make the same mistake that Adam had made, but rather that Adam did not make the mistake some said [39] he made. ...he appears to assume implicitly that, according...
by Giuseppe
Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Questioning Richard Carrier's agnosticism based on the only Gospels
Replies: 9
Views: 252

Re: Questioning Richard Carrier's agnosticism based on the only Gospels

Somewhere Carrier wrote publicly to me "hence, agnosticism" just in the context of 33% of probability for historicity. The point is precisely this: I don't bet my house or my life if I had only the 66% of probability of preserving it. The risk of losing it for the 33% of probability is still too mu...
by Giuseppe
Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!
Replies: 9
Views: 2362

Re: Incredible: a modern scholar has arrived independently to my same conclusion!!!

I note another extraordinary "coincidence": 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 On the origin of the world 115,23 Oldest Gospel Passion Story We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age , who are coming to nothing. No, we declare God’s wisd...
by Giuseppe
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Questioning Richard Carrier's agnosticism based on the only Gospels
Replies: 9
Views: 252

Re: Questioning Richard Carrier's agnosticism based on the only Gospels

Loren Rosson wrote: "So for instance, in his assessment of the gospels, he finds nothing at all which can verify Jesus’ existence, but also nothing which proves mythicism." But Carrier's PRIOR probability -- based on his assessment of the Gospels -- has the Gospels providing a weighting from 66.6% ...
by Giuseppe
Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bob Price on the reason why Jesus IS Adam
Replies: 9
Views: 147

Bob Price on the reason why Jesus IS Adam

Prof Robert M. Price explains why Jesus was identified with the celestial Adam: Scholars have quite naturally understood the Kenosis Hymn in Philippians 2:6–11 as describing the incarnation of Jesus Christ. James D.G. Dunn, for example, sees in these verses a contrast between Adam’s fatal misstep of...
by Giuseppe
Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Questioning Richard Carrier's agnosticism based on the only Gospels
Replies: 9
Views: 252

Re: Questioning Richard Carrier's agnosticism based on the only Gospels

According to Dr Carrier's calculations, dealing only with the Gospels, is the result consistent with Carrier being "a Jesus agnostic"? yes. I remember that about the Gospels your review of Carrier's book agrees totally with Carrier himself. For example, I have never seen you defend the validity of ...
by Giuseppe
Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Questioning Richard Carrier's agnosticism based on the only Gospels
Replies: 9
Views: 252

Re: Questioning Richard Carrier's agnosticism based on the only Gospels

This contradicts Carrier's assertion about the Gospels being as likely under both. (It also makes no sense in terms of Bayes, since the class being used doesn't even map to MH and MM in the first place.) you are going to misinterpret deliberately the Carrier's distinction between his approach a pri...