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by Secret Alias
Sun May 20, 2018 9:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 110

Re: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity

I am not getting you. It would seem to me that Barnabas was added to the text at a later date unless Barnabas was originally a Petrine character.
by Secret Alias
Sun May 20, 2018 3:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 110

Re: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity

Adler is one of my favorites. What he says of course is spot on. Still if the Homilies are more original we'd have to say that we are talking about multiple rewrites where even this 'Alexandrian edition' is far from the earliest version. I personally think the introduction of Barnabas - a figure fro...
by Secret Alias
Sat May 19, 2018 9:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Irenaeus's and Marcion's Christianity a Response to Celsus's 'True Word'?
Replies: 6
Views: 125

Re: Was Irenaeus's and Marcion's Christianity a Response to Celsus's 'True Word'?

His opponent Origen likewise alternates between singular and plural emperors, even within the same chapter (8.73)
This might prove decisive. Especially if you factor in the likelihood (which I think is pretty high) that the text was rewritten by Eusebius.
by Secret Alias
Sat May 19, 2018 11:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Springtime for Tiberius
Replies: 10
Views: 140

Re: Springtime for Tiberius

Be skillful money changers seems to be an agraphon of Egyptian provenance https://books.google.com/books?id=a7-OBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT87&dq=clementine+homilies+written+in+Egypt&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsyKHav5LbAhUD-58KHZATAa8Q6AEITjAH#v=onepage&q=clementine%20homilies%20written%20in%20Egypt&f=false We read i...
by Secret Alias
Sat May 19, 2018 11:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Springtime for Tiberius
Replies: 10
Views: 140

Re: Springtime for Tiberius

Andrew Here is my argument for the originality of Homilies. The presence of Appion of Alexandria in Homilies. Clement has a discussion with Simon's disciple Appion (H 5.7 – 6.25). All this is omitted by R, but the same subjects are discussed in R 10.17–51 all of which means that either Homilies modi...
by Secret Alias
Fri May 18, 2018 7:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 110

Re: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity

Interesting. Maybe you're right. Let me take a second look.
by Secret Alias
Fri May 18, 2018 4:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 110

Re: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity

The reason I find this interesting is that it is the closest thing that I have ever found which explains what the appeal of earliest Christianity was. There must have been these preachers who came around to ancient cities claiming about all to preach the will of God to people. Why did Christianity c...
by Secret Alias
Fri May 18, 2018 3:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 110

The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity

I know most of us when we read the Clementines we hold up our nose and say 'this is a complete load of rubbish.' And of course it ultimately is rubbish. The Clementine Homilies and Recognitions are to books what pornographic actors are to the acting profession. But even if the texts were reworked by...