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by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 9
Views: 103

Re: Dating One Corinthians 13

I read Walker years ago, I'll dig it up and check. I'm generally one that doesn't need to be convinced the epistles are chock full of interpolations, I just dont remember this specific case. You have probably been able to guess that I have arrived at a fairly similar position, perhaps scaled back f...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 9
Views: 103

Re: Dating One Corinthians 13

perseusomega9 wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:39 am
What do you think of the argument by Fee?
Have you read Walker (or anyone else) on this chapter possibly being an interpolation? If so, what do you think?
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 9
Views: 103

Re: Dating One Corinthians 13

Thanks Ben, on another forum someone provided me with Metzger who comes to a similar conclusion. It's a good argument, but I just think a lot hinges on the assumed dating needed in (1) that gets the ball rolling. What do you think of the argument by Fee? I think the point about transcriptional prob...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 9
Views: 103

Re: Dating One Corinthians 13

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by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating One Corinthians 13
Replies: 9
Views: 103

Re: Dating One Corinthians 13

I was reading an essay by Krister Stendahl and he was discussing 1 Cor 13. In 13:3 he quotes If I give away all my possessions, and if I hand over my body to be burned , but do not have love, I have gained nothing this jumped out at me as I've never seen that before. So I pull out my Harper Collins...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus Naked in the Gospel
Replies: 40
Views: 988

Re: Jesus Naked in the Gospel

Secret Alias wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:26 pm
This is fun. Here I can prove Jesus was black.
https://thegrio.com/2020/07/13/passenge ... ack-threat.
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 957

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

It's a false distinction because it says that Jews and Christians only looked to the Old Testament, when they were surrounded by other cults and religions with similar traits to theirs. Why bother hunting for obscure passages that don't even apply to Jesus to begin with? No, that is not my view at ...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 957

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

The three most direct parallels, the three for which you gave quotes from the gospels to match, all come from the gospel of John, and I am actually quite open to that gospel having added details from pagan ritual. What I am saying is that the death and resurrection of Jesus as a concept, as a "thin...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 957

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

The three most direct parallels, the three for which you gave quotes from the gospels to match, all come from the gospel of John, and I am actually quite open to that gospel having added details from pagan ritual. What I am saying is that the death and resurrection of Jesus as a concept, as a "thing...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question for Ben
Replies: 4
Views: 167

Re: Question for Ben

No problem.