Some say Ambrose was not the first nor unusual to read silently. And maybe that he did so this time merely to prevent other hearers.
In either case, Augustine, from another place, was impressed.
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- Sat May 11, 2024 12:43 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What do we know about how early Christians construed “self-talk”, “inner speech”, “talking to oneself”?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 186
- Sat May 11, 2024 5:55 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What do we know about how early Christians construed “self-talk”, “inner speech”, “talking to oneself”?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 186
Re: What do we know about how early Christians construed “self-talk”, “inner speech”, “talking to oneself”?
Some who call Augustine the first psychologist, iirc, add, suggest, that ancient people earlier than him typically had less inner dialogue than he did.
- Fri May 10, 2024 1:43 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Rome and early Christianity
- Replies: 5
- Views: 212
Rome and early Christianity
Various posts here propose that Rome invented Christianity. I won't attempt a summary version of those various proposals because they do not, even remotely, agree with one another. Roman religion, early on, seems largely a warmed-over Greek religion, with new names. (Maybe with Etruscan and other in...
- Fri May 10, 2024 10:27 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Last nail on the Testimonium Flavianum. Again.
- Replies: 5
- Views: 210
Re: Last nail on the Testimonium Flavianum. Again.
Last nail...Again? No more "last nails" to come?
- Fri May 10, 2024 8:15 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
- Replies: 45
- Views: 2204
Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
The Smith-Scholem Correspondence book [published in 2008] is interesting, concerning Mark, concerning Sabbatai Sevi, and concerning paleography. Smith p. 23 wrote to Scholem that he (Smith) "shall have in any case to begin learning something about palaeography." Letter date: January, 6, 19...
- Fri May 10, 2024 6:49 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What do we know about how early Christians construed “self-talk”, “inner speech”, “talking to oneself”?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 186
Re: What do we know about how early Christians construed “self-talk”, “inner speech”, “talking to oneself”?
fwiw, Augustine, author of Confessions, is sometimes considered to be the first western psychologist.
- Thu May 09, 2024 11:41 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: on Pharisees, zoom
- Replies: 0
- Views: 102
on Pharisees, zoom
We are pleased to invite you to the upcoming Orion Center Greenfield Scholars’ Seminar: “Being Fair to the Pharisees: Beyond Negative or Positive Stereotypes” Prof. Joseph Sievers Pontifical Biblical Institute, Rome Studium Biblicum Franciscanum, Jerusalem Chair: Prof. Prof. Daniel R. Schwartz Depar...
- Wed May 08, 2024 1:49 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John of Damascus, Mar Saba, no mention of "Secret Mark"
- Replies: 0
- Views: 118
John of Damascus, Mar Saba, no mention of "Secret Mark"
John of Damascus, who was at Mar Saba from circa 715 to 750, wrote about heresies, many of those previously included in Epiphanius, Panarion, including Carpocratians, plus some newer ones. Carpocrates he called an Asiatic. No mention of Alexandria. No mention of "Secret Mark." For Smith's ...
- Wed May 08, 2024 7:26 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
- Replies: 45
- Views: 2204
Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Clarification and correction. Above in this thread, Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:17 pm, I wrote: ""MS got early liturgy wrong." Wrong for what fit Clement in Egypt. This, supported from, iirc, Robin Jenson (a Columbia grad, I think), and Peter Jeffrey, an early liturgy specialist, and a colleag...
- Tue May 07, 2024 5:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Proposition: There are Three Major Classes of Christian Literature
- Replies: 43
- Views: 12653
Re: Proposition: There are Three Major Classes of Christian Literature
LC previously wrote, Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:49 pm, in part: "...how are we supposed to start looking at the historical evidence? It looks like a mess. Unless you have some better ideas I'm just trying to tidy it up a little." I suggest the "implications" of "assumptions" ab...