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by Leucius Charinus
Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 34
Views: 507

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

Are you contending that these people thought that the figure of IS XS appeared in history as a god, or a deity, or a spirit, or a mythological being rather than a historical "fleshy" human being? That's right. So if Marcion, for example, had a time machine, he'd have thought he could go b...
by Leucius Charinus
Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 34
Views: 507

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

What about the reports (above) of those "who confess not that Jesus Christ (IS XS) is come in the flesh" ? It stands to reason there were people who doubted IS XS appeared in the flesh. Yes, I agree. Could these people be doubting whether IS XS appeared in history as a human being? Yes. I...
by Leucius Charinus
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 34
Views: 507

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

The others seem to involve questioning whether Christ has come, rather than whether Jesus existed. What about the reports (above) of those "who confess not that Jesus Christ (IS XS) is come in the flesh"? It stands to reason there were people who doubted IS XS appeared in the flesh. Could...
by Leucius Charinus
Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 34
Views: 507

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

"For many deceivers are entered into the world,
who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.
This is a deceiver and an antichrist."
(2 John 1:7)
by Leucius Charinus
Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Wide ranging study on Christian forgery?
Replies: 8
Views: 328

Re: Wide ranging study on Christian forgery?

@Leucius Charinus Thanks for this, very helpful. This question relates to the book "Forgery in Christianity" by Joseph Wheless located here: https://infidels.org/library/historical ... istianity/ I have previously directed your attention to this. Have you reviewed the work? If so what are...
by Leucius Charinus
Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Catalogue Christian literature by genre?
Replies: 1
Views: 88

Re: Catalogue Christian literature by genre?

I'm looking for some sort of summary of Christian literature by genre, era and perhaps language that was produced between the 2nd century and the 16th century. Any ideas? I have put forward a Proposition: There are Three Major Classes of Christian Literature https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopi...
by Leucius Charinus
Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The "Christianos Graffito" discovered in Pompeii (1862)
Replies: 25
Views: 663

Re: The "Christianos Graffito" discovered in Pompeii (1862)

2) The involvement of the papal archeologist Giovanni Battista de Rossi, even at arm's length, rings all sorts of warning bells for me. 3) The involvement of Pope Pius IX who "moved beyond collecting [Christian relics] by appointing a commission - "Commissione de archaelogia sacra" -...
by Leucius Charinus
Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Wide ranging study on Christian forgery?
Replies: 8
Views: 328

Re: Wide ranging study on Christian forgery?

I have read Ehrman's Forgery and Counter Forgery , as well as Candida Moss' Myth of Persecution , both of which deal with forgery in a limited scope. But are there are good studies that document the full scope of Christian forgery from the earliest documents up through the modern era? I'd like to g...
by Leucius Charinus
Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The "Christianos Graffito" discovered in Pompeii (1862)
Replies: 25
Views: 663

Re: The "Christianos Graffito" discovered in Pompeii (1862)

(1) “a figment of pious imagination” (2) 'accusations of fraud - the original eyewitnesses invented the graffito and that “in fact, probably no one ever saw it!” The above isn't critical and rational; it's a statement of prejudices. The prejudice is directed against efforts to masquerade a pious fr...
by Leucius Charinus
Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The "Christianos Graffito" discovered in Pompeii (1862)
Replies: 25
Views: 663

The "Christianos Graffito" discovered in Pompeii (1862)

A separate thread to discuss the earliest purported Christian inscription. I have added two links to papers on the "Christianos Graffito" found at Pompeii (buried in 79 CE) in the 19th century. The discussion of the inscription has always been marred by association with far-fetched specula...