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by theomise
Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Explaining the "Great Omission" without "Q"
Replies: 19
Views: 14653

Explaining the "Great Omission" without "Q"

Question: How is it possible to explain the "Great Omission in Luke" without acknowledging the existence of a hypothetical "Q" document?
by theomise
Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Political allegory in the 'exoteric' legend of Jesus
Replies: 58
Views: 62758

Re: Political allegory in the 'exoteric' legend of Jesus

Here goes: a) Cool. b) It may look that way, but that perspective is not committed to a CD theory c) Evidence for such a scenario can be extracted from written evidence (not "minds") d) No, I disagree that the one implies the other. I see the gospel stories as, at best, whitewashes of ugl...
by theomise
Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Political allegory in the 'exoteric' legend of Jesus
Replies: 58
Views: 62758

Re: Political allegory in the 'exoteric' legend of Jesus

Hi maryhelena, Just to clarify my own position, and how it differs from yours: 1) We agree on the heavy use of political allegory in the gospel stories. (a) Yep, agreed. 2) However, I see the historicized gospel Jesus as largely a 2nd-century literary creation - a sort of Josephan fan-fiction tacke...
by theomise
Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Political allegory in the 'exoteric' legend of Jesus
Replies: 58
Views: 62758

Re: Political allegory in the 'exoteric' legend of Jesus

Robert Price on a review of a book by Bauer "....the while point of the book is that the Christ figure is not so much the historical incarnation of the divine Spirit as the literary incarnation of the Zeitgeist. http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/reviews/bauer_christ_caesars.htm Well now, ...
by theomise
Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gnostic literature after 325 CE
Replies: 230
Views: 267207

Re: On dating the Gnostic literature after 325 CE

Interesting, thanks for that.... :scratch: But how, precisely, do we know any of that empirically? what, precisely, do you mean by this question? C14 dating dates the carbon isotope ratios in the papyrus when it was harvested (excluding contaminants). C14 dating as another dating methodology and ga...
by theomise
Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:36 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Will the real atheist please stand up?
Replies: 59
Views: 40528

Re: Polemic re Carrier Craig etc

Are they related? http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/habermas/ Jürgen Habermas currently ranks as one of the most influential philosophers in the world. I don't think Gary Habermas and Jürgen Habermas are related at all. DCH (sick today with itchy hives, boss) Indeed. The 1929-born German scholar Jü...
by theomise
Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Petavius on the Panarion
Replies: 11
Views: 12139

Re: Peteavius on the Panarion

No matter how one looks at it, it is still confused as hell. It was Simon, not Alexander Janneus, who was the first high priest to be declared a hereditary ruler. This was by popular decree, circa 141/140 BCE, and this declaration was confirmed by the Syrian ruler out of necessity, effectively maki...
by theomise
Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gnostic literature after 325 CE
Replies: 230
Views: 267207

Re: On dating the Gnostic literature after 325 CE

Have any unquestionably Christian artifacts (papyri, whatever) actually been carbon-dated to a date range such that at least half the estimated temporal interval antecedes 325AD? If so, I'd love to see a list. There are only 2 C14 dating tests that I know of in this category - ie: Christian manuscr...
by theomise
Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On dating the Gnostic literature after 325 CE
Replies: 230
Views: 267207

Re: On dating the Gnostic literature after 325 CE

Have any unquestionably Christian artifacts (papyri, whatever) actually been carbon-dated to a date range such that at least half the estimated temporal interval antecedes 325AD?

If so, I'd love to see a list.
by theomise
Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul's Dog and Pony Show
Replies: 12
Views: 17511

Re: Paul's Dog and Pony Show

By many twists of fate, are one man's ‘donor-letters’ now revered by millions as the unerring word of God? Hi robert j, Good stuff. I'm on the same page regarding this overall approach to Christian origins, 'the Pauline letters', etc. Putting aside the question whether 'Jesus' existed as an 'earthl...