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by John T
Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:21 pm
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: Jordan Peterson
Replies: 4
Views: 475

Re: Jordan Peterson

I watch just a few minutes of one of his lectures and read portions of his lectures. He seemed very sad while reflecting on, (how can I paraphrase his sentiments?) how the Marxist atheist presupposition for an utopian future was killed by that evil capitalist Ronald Reagan. He claimed to have nightm...
by John T
Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proofs That Jesus Existed
Replies: 333
Views: 48094

Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Argument from hate

1. Ashiests hate Jesus.
2. You can't hate something that doesn't exist.
3. Therefore, Jesus exists.
by John T
Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?
Replies: 52
Views: 3471

Re: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?

I think the reason why the Similitudes were not found at Qumran could be due to either chance or because it was written after 70 CE. If memory serves me correct Daniel 7:13 hasn't been found at Qumran either. Likewise, the entire book of Daniel is missing from the Codex Sinaiticus. Perhaps you woul...
by John T
Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?
Replies: 52
Views: 3471

Re: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?

Actually, the Son of Man that Jesus speaks of is based on The Similitudes of Enoch (1 Enoch 46-48). The Son of Man is not God but a faithful servant that does his will. But is Jesus really saying anything? It's the author of the gospel who puts the words in Jesus's mouth. We don't know if Jesus sai...
by John T
Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?
Replies: 52
Views: 3471

Re: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?

And the Son of Man, which is based on Daniel, is a divine being, i.e. God (or at least invested with God-power), who, according to Jewish Christians, came down from heaven and entered into Jesus at some point during his life. Actually, the Son of Man that Jesus speaks of is based on The Similitudes...
by John T
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?
Replies: 52
Views: 3471

Re: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?

Formally speaking the idea that God the Father comes down to Earth to get sacrificed is the heresy of Patripassianism Andrew Criddle Yes, quite right. It is also known as monarchianism or sabellianism, an early Christian heresy taught by Noetus and Praxeas. The verse that causes the most confusion ...
by John T
Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?
Replies: 52
Views: 3471

Re: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?

So you [John T] think that if don't provide Jesus recorded as saying "I am a god who has come down from heaven to be crucified" my point is disproved! The point is that the gospel of John and the Pauline epistles contain clear evidence that the narrative was taken to be about this. But you have suc...
by John T
Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?
Replies: 52
Views: 3471

Re: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?

Here's what Christianity comes down to for me - 1. God comes to earth and is crucified 2. Because of (1) the ideal 'kingdom' viz. the ideal republic is now spread out on the earth Please try to remember, I didn't make that claim, Alias did. All I did was ask him to provide some proof supported by t...
by John T
Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?
Replies: 52
Views: 3471

Re: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?

Can anyone cite any sayings of Jesus that supports Secret Alias interpretation that God came to earth to be crucified? I'm still waiting. :popcorn: **************** Alias, once again is all over the map without citing any scripture . Then he attacks me for simply asking that he provide a source othe...
by John T
Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?
Replies: 52
Views: 3471

Re: How Did God Crucified Establish Civic Idealism?

Secret Alias wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:32 pm
He just gave the answer to you. Maybe you should learn to read better.
Still waiting. :popcorn: