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by andrewbos
Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Given Matthew and Luke, why was Mark needed?
Replies: 2
Views: 4685

Re: Given Matthew and Luke, why was Mark needed?

Would he have deliberately changed the more sophisticated Greek of Luke and Matthew to more unpolished Greek?
Why would he have done that?
by andrewbos
Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Text variations in the 'Way to pray' in Q-lite?
Replies: 0
Views: 4464

Text variations in the 'Way to pray' in Q-lite?

Assuming that the original author of Marcion/Luke knew Matthew and both authors used Q-lite (shorter version of Q) for writing their gospels, why do Marcion, final Luke and Matthew have differences in the text of Q 11: 2b-4 (Matthew 6: 9-13)? Marcion and early canonical Luke have "Let your Holy...
by andrewbos
Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Special gMatt material in gMarcion?
Replies: 20
Views: 20104

Re: Special gMatt material in gMarcion?

This is the model I prefer at present: * Q-lite written as non-christian (anti-religious) mystical teachings and instructions to a mystic mission for traveling missionaries with Jesus as their realized Master. * aMark writes the first syncretic religious narrative at a time when Q-lite was still bei...
by andrewbos
Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Summary History of Christian Origins?
Replies: 62
Views: 38522

Re: A Summary History of Christian Origins?

A history of Christian origins that looks something like this, Stephan, might account for all that (and much else). (A) RELATIVELY INDEPENDENT (with some possible interaction) IN THE PERIOD UP TO THE YEAR 70 1) Possibly Nazoreans , or possibly Jacob-(the-Just)-ians, or possibly Galilean Cynics, or ...
by andrewbos
Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why was invented Paul?
Replies: 81
Views: 47211

Re: Why was invented Paul?

The birds would be the impostors who spoke in name of ''Paul'' wanting to take advantage of his authority.. I think that that passage in Mark reveals already a scenario where it's known by ''Mark'' that Paul's letters are interpolated by christians of different factions. Dear me. Of all the 'connec...
by andrewbos
Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Earliest Jesus stratum?
Replies: 19
Views: 13847

Re: Earliest Jesus stratum?

The assimilation of Matthew into Luke could have happened by the redactor of the 'gospel of the Lord' that Marcion used. In the three-source hypothesis the idea is that the author of Luke knew Matthew, but if Luke was redacted I would be interested to know at which redaction level(s) Matthew was ass...
by andrewbos
Fri May 29, 2015 3:25 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Who's the Source, "Luke"? -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 12
Views: 10524

Re: Who's the Source, "Luke"? -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Burton Mack uses the stratification also.

If you can show that the Q2 and Q3 sections of Kloppenborg's Q were copied into Luke from Matthew and hence were never in Q, this would make for a much "neater" (more uniform) Q (e.g. without narrative text), more like the sayings gospel Thomas.
by andrewbos
Wed May 27, 2015 11:02 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Who's the Source, "Luke"? -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 12
Views: 10524

Re: Who's the Source, "Luke"? -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Better methods for deciding how to excerpt from the Gospel of Luke, better ways of sampling the other texts (other than taking the entire gospels of Matthew and gospel of Mark as the basis of statistics), or better factors for discrimination than single word frequencies may provide better results. ...
by andrewbos
Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Other Interpretation of Paul's Letters
Replies: 60
Views: 32145

Re: The Outhouse Interpretation of Paul's Letters

The problem here is, no one wants to admit to and follow any kind of historical foundation and build from there. If there is no "historical foundation" to be found you will have to admit that your idea about the formation of those scriptures is biased and wrong. The Pauline epistles have ...