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Commenting by a single smile the strange silence by Ken and Peter about the Couchoud's argument against Loisy: :whistling: Couchoud: I will try to show that, to the four canonical Gospels, there must be added the Gospel of Marcion, now lost but almost completely reconstituted from quotations. M. Lo...

If I knew nothing else about The Letter to Theodore and you had sent me images of the three pages and asked me what the word in dispute on III 18 is, I would almost certainly have said it was γυμνοί with a final Iota because one of basic rules of Greek is that accents go over vowels. That's the qui...

Peter Schäfer, Jesus in the Talmud , p. 122 [ pp. 111-112 ], my bold: It is left to the vicious acumen of Tertullian to summarize what the Jews think of Jesus. When he vividly imagines the last day of judgment—with the emperors who claimed to have been taken up to heaven, the governors of the provi...

And it seems Loisy thought that Origen thought Marcion alluded to the sons of Zebedee pericope. No, you missed the distinction between what Marcion himself may have written in the Evangelion and what later Marcionites may have written about Marcion. Andrew Criddle and Peter Kirby have discussed the...

And it seems Loisy thought that Origen thought Marcion alluded to the sons of Zebedee pericope. No, you missed the distinction between what Marcion himself may have written in the Evangelion and what later Marcionites may have written about Marcion. Andrew Criddle and Peter Kirby have discussed the...

And yet Loisy seems to concede that in the case of the prayer of the Lord, a modification has been made directly against Marcion. At least judging from the reply by Couchoud: I will try to show that, to the four canonical Gospels, there must be added the Gospel of Marcion, now lost but almost compl...

Giuseppe wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 9:03 pm Ken, can you share the entire Loisy's article? Thank you in advance for any answer.

No, I believe it's still under copyright. But if what you are interested in is what Loisy says about the birth narratives in the article, here it is:
Best,

Ken

Loisy's response to Couchoud concerning the two pericopes of material which are not attested in Luke: Loisy - Reply - Bottom 379.png Loisy - Reply - Top 380.png Loisy's argument against Couchoud, to put it simply, is that the attestation for attributing these two pericopes to Marcion is insufficien...

II. ...... < omitted> "In order to reach an incontrovertible conclusion, one must obviously begin by comparing those parts of the gospel common to both Luke and Marcion with the sections peculiar to each. It is almost invariably the sections peculiar to Luke which come under discussion, as tho...

More precisely, Couchoud replies to Loisy as to the Marcion/Luke question in the following way (p. 442-443): I will try to show that, to the four canonical Gospels, there must be added the Gospel of Marcion, now lost but almost completely reconstituted from quotations. M. Loisy assigns it “an inter...