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- Mon May 06, 2024 12:50 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
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Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
They occur in two manuscripts of Luke (from the 11th and 12th centuries), isn't that a strong clue that the request “Father, let thy holy Spirit come upon us and purify us" was introduced only later in Canonical Luke since the logical breaking with ' how much more will the heavenly Father give...
- Sun May 05, 2024 6:17 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
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Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Commenting by a single smile the strange silence by Ken and Peter about the Couchoud's argument against Loisy: :whistling: Couchoud: I will try to show that, to the four canonical Gospels, there must be added the Gospel of Marcion, now lost but almost completely reconstituted from quotations. M. Lo...
- Sun May 05, 2024 4:50 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
- Replies: 135
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Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
If I knew nothing else about The Letter to Theodore and you had sent me images of the three pages and asked me what the word in dispute on III 18 is, I would almost certainly have said it was γυμνοί with a final Iota because one of basic rules of Greek is that accents go over vowels. That's the qui...
- Sun May 05, 2024 1:01 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Peter Schäfer on the origin of the accusation against Jesus of being a Samaritan
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Re: Peter Schäfer on the origin of the accusation against Jesus of being a Samaritan
Peter Schäfer, Jesus in the Talmud , p. 122 [ pp. 111-112 ], my bold: It is left to the vicious acumen of Tertullian to summarize what the Jews think of Jesus. When he vividly imagines the last day of judgment—with the emperors who claimed to have been taken up to heaven, the governors of the provi...
- Sat May 04, 2024 12:46 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
- Replies: 42
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Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
And it seems Loisy thought that Origen thought Marcion alluded to the sons of Zebedee pericope. No, you missed the distinction between what Marcion himself may have written in the Evangelion and what later Marcionites may have written about Marcion. Andrew Criddle and Peter Kirby have discussed the...
- Sat May 04, 2024 12:04 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
- Replies: 42
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Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
And it seems Loisy thought that Origen thought Marcion alluded to the sons of Zebedee pericope. No, you missed the distinction between what Marcion himself may have written in the Evangelion and what later Marcionites may have written about Marcion. Andrew Criddle and Peter Kirby have discussed the...
- Sat May 04, 2024 6:39 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
- Replies: 42
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Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
And yet Loisy seems to concede that in the case of the prayer of the Lord, a modification has been made directly against Marcion. At least judging from the reply by Couchoud: I will try to show that, to the four canonical Gospels, there must be added the Gospel of Marcion, now lost but almost compl...
- Sat May 04, 2024 5:08 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
- Replies: 42
- Views: 6770
- Sat May 04, 2024 5:03 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
- Replies: 42
- Views: 6770
Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
Loisy's response to Couchoud concerning the two pericopes of material which are not attested in Luke: Loisy - Reply - Bottom 379.png Loisy - Reply - Top 380.png Loisy's argument against Couchoud, to put it simply, is that the attestation for attributing these two pericopes to Marcion is insufficien...
- Fri May 03, 2024 12:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
- Replies: 42
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Re: Couchoud's 'Is Marcion's Gospel One of the Synoptics?'
II. ...... < omitted> "In order to reach an incontrovertible conclusion, one must obviously begin by comparing those parts of the gospel common to both Luke and Marcion with the sections peculiar to each. It is almost invariably the sections peculiar to Luke which come under discussion, as tho...