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Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:26 pm

Maybe the presence of fish is related to his identity as Joshua revividus.

Yes the Ichthys.

My only comment is I think Fish was added to the story, not original.

It might also be an attempt to redefine the term 'gospel' away from its association with the announcement of the Jubilee on Yom Kippur to the loose meaningless terminology that Christians employ since the late second century. So you are accusing Augustus of trying to appropriate what you see as a "...

Which passage in Philo? A note of source cited, book and chapter, would be nice.

Philo sounds very much proto-Gnostic or proto-Marcionite in that description of the properties of Yahweh.

Peregrinus is witnessed by Aulus Gellius, and Tatian and Athenagoras write about him as well. Oh I know. All of these are just forged writings from the third and fourth centuries. Whatever you say, jefe. Aulus Gellius is a witness to a philosopher of that name. Tatian and Tertullian appear to have ...

Joseph, I see no kernel, rather some common tropes with popular stories of the day. Can you give some examples? Peregrinus Proteus is a fiction build from fictions. Lucian's account is satire so to take it at face value is ridicules. Peregrinus himself is not a fiction. Let's modernize your claim t...

Ben, I think we are not looking at anything Jewish with Scribes and Pharisees and Chief Priests such. Rather we are looking at Christian equivalents anachronistically cast back into the first century Palestine as Jews. When I look at Luke, trying to use Marcionite eyes (or Pauline Heterodox more gen...

Joseph,

I see no kernel, rather some common tropes with popular stories of the day. Peregrinus Proteus is a fiction build from fictions.

issemm, Joseph DL sums up the literal reading of the passage well. But we are probably not looking at a real confrontation of Paul and Cephas (Peter), nor of people from James, but rather a fictional confrontation of the patron saints of three sects. A posthumous confrontation if you will. [1] Paul,...

He does. The methodology does also indicate that not much was known about early (70 - 180 CE) Christianity outside of books. The Jews and Samaritans had more in the way of oral tradition. I'd go further and say not much was known about Christianity prior to the Antonine Plague, as this event is ess...