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Secret Alias wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:59 am

But that was not what the text originally said and it is apparent from the content that there was a different contest between something like Gospel of the Hebrews and the gospel of Paul.

And the Gospel of Mark sure looks like it's responding to a more Jewish, pro-12 Apostle/Disciple Gospel.

Ken Olson wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:27 am

not that they had to sit around like angsty teens saying “I hate my life”

Interesting reference in the Shepherd, too: " the elders who preside over the church [τῶν πρεσβυτέρων τῶν προϊσταμένων τῆς ἐκκλησίας]" (Hermas, The Shepherd , Vision 2.4.3). That's one more of several you provided where president is used along side elder but it's elder that became the ecclesiastica...

Awesome!

To me, a big issue is that of the various officer positions, such a bishops, etc. that Paul mentions. It seems that many people take these to be Christian inventions, and thus signs of a mature or developed church structure. But I don't see this as the case. More likely, Paul was dealing with estab...

I believe they also say the Pope's hat is derived from the priests of Dagon.

But did SA also avoid those traps? This isn't a criticism, external box thinking is a good thing.

Is there an actual published paper, and if so please link, or he we just clicking on some reddit spec?

then again, I do have fault in that

I go away for one day for a beach trip and come back to find another great Ben thread idea. I haven't read through the whole thread yet but I've always liked this table from Neil's site. http://vridar.info/xorigins/justinnarr.htm I like that table, too. It is one of about 5 different resources I re...