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by AdamKvanta
Fri May 10, 2024 11:08 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 151
Views: 20911

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

RandyHelzerman wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 12:55 pm 5. But Tselikas is no lightweight. I can surely believe that he, looking at the photos, would see an iota.
Tselikas also saw an iota in I.2 ἐπιστοµίσας / ἐπιστοµίσαι:
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by AdamKvanta
Thu May 09, 2024 9:57 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 151
Views: 20911

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

So the question of the general use of the ligatures might be for another thread. Oh man, I'd prefer to have them here, at least those which are directly relevant to deciding this question anyways. If they are relevant to the question of "γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ" then by all means. But it doesn't...
by AdamKvanta
Wed May 08, 2024 8:20 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 151
Views: 20911

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

No, I was hoping that an explanation for why Μάρκος has no ligature but νεανίσκος does would occur to me while I was looking at the issue of accents with ligatures, but it hasn't. Not yet, anyway. I see. Well, I'm already satisfied with the explanation that γυμνὸς (if it is γυμνὸς) is without the l...
by AdamKvanta
Tue May 07, 2024 11:16 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 151
Views: 20911

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

I think we might expect that the scribe might not use the same ligature found in ἐκλεγόμενος, χρησάμενος, and περιβεβλημένος because they are unaccented and he wanted to represent the accent. Great observation. Have you proposed an explanation why Μάρκος has no -ος ligature and νεανίσκος does? I al...
by AdamKvanta
Mon May 06, 2024 11:30 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 151
Views: 20911

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

Because of which characters are represented in ligature form (ος) and which are not, we can discard the suggestions that the ligature used in the text is -μενος or "-νος," and we can understand Tselikas more correctly as organizing different illustrative examples alphabetically that he de...
by AdamKvanta
Sat May 04, 2024 11:16 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 151
Views: 20911

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

Have you ever tried learning calligraphy with a dip pen? No, I haven't. 6. I need to get better at not jumping to conclusions..... :-( I was hoping that we could use some image processing techniques to disambiguate this gymnastic blob--but we just don't have to data to resolve this issue via lookin...
by AdamKvanta
Sat May 04, 2024 1:37 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 151
Views: 20911

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

Other arguments are that I think there is a slight indentation as Ken Olson said Take a look at Smith's Black and white photoes--the indentation is not apparent. Also, zoom in on the HIGH RES unprocessed gymnastic character--you'll see that where the "indentation" is is very much lighter ...
by AdamKvanta
Thu May 02, 2024 11:50 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 151
Views: 20911

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

I was inspired by Peter Kirby's set of iotas and did a set for sigmas. These are not all sigmas but only those that I find somewhat similar to the gymnastic character (40 = III.13 γυµνὸς/γυµνοὶ): sigmas.jpg 1 = I.1 Κλήµεντος 2 = I.5 εἰς 3 = I.12 παντελῶς 4 = I.16 πράξεις 5 = I.18 πίστεως 6 = I.19 εἰ...
by AdamKvanta
Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:03 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 151
Views: 20911

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

For the purpose of apples-to-apples comparison, I have sent you a Google drive link with the (circa 300MB each) bitmap files of all three pages. I have additionally sent the same invitation link to Ken Olson, Andrew Criddle, and Adam Kvanta. Thanks, much appreciated! Tselikas performed a detailed s...
by AdamKvanta
Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:56 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 151
Views: 20911

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

How about this?
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