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by Peter Kirby
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Morton Smith, Private Teaching, and γυμνὸς γυμνῷ
Replies: 1
Views: 27

Morton Smith, Private Teaching, and γυμνὸς γυμνῷ

The Mar Saba letter has the plural here (iota, not sigma): https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=169090#p169090 https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=169661#p169661 https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=169711#p169711 So the question of how Morton Smith interpreted the ...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 198
Views: 1691

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

SA, for clarity, Smith's Greek text is a "transcription" and an error there would be transcribed incorrectly.

Which is a somewhat more relevant point than just saying mistranslated.
by Peter Kirby
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen's interesting ideas
Replies: 13
Views: 257

Re: Origen's interesting ideas

There's something to this. But we ought to think in a general way about every parable, the interpretation of which has not been recorded by the evangelists, even though Jesus explained all things to His own disciples privately; [Mark 4:34] According to Heine's translation: "But someone will obj...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 198
Views: 1691

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

I am merely giving my opinion, Peter, that, given the huge publicity about this, that some reader would have found it, were it extant. That is apparently different than your opinion. OK, two opinions, then. I am not accusing you of dishonesty, and I hope the same applies to me. Thanks. I appreciate...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 198
Views: 1691

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

StephenGoranson wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:55 am If a pre-1976 monastic publication has that, by 2024, would not someone by now have found it?
So why would I ask these questions? Because I am dishonest and refuse to admit the obvious that it must not exist?
by Peter Kirby
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 33
Views: 227

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

All your posting on the subject has documented conclusively that the Gospel of Mark is not anti-Marcionite.

Take a bow.
by Peter Kirby
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 33
Views: 227

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

WRONG! It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Basilidian. It is clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite . Please like the difference. No. How can you answer 'no'? We are said that Marcion interpreted ad litteram the OT. The allegorical expedient was not available to him. It was u...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 99
Views: 731

Re: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"

I made an earlier post in a similar thread here To paraphrase: Tselikas did not strictly speaking establish that the handwriting is later than the 18th century, What Tselikas did claim to establish is that although the handwriting is in one sense an 18th century Greek cursive, the scribe is not wri...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 33
Views: 227

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

They could also read this as the higher good God declaring Jesus. It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite. WRONG! It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Basilidian. It is clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite . Please like the difference. No. How can you answ...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 198
Views: 1691

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

A receipt from the transfer, signed by Dourvas among others, has recently surfaced. The paleographer Agamemnon Tselikas discovered it in the archives of the Patriarchal Library in Jerusalem. The document describes the letter of Clement as “unpublished and without any doubts about its authenticity.”...