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by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:50 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Replies: 21
Views: 244

Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter

Ironically, the book by Stephen C. Carlson, often vilified in this forum, though it remains largely pertinent, actually introduced views of "Julie C. Edison, a professional forensic document examiner." Admittedly with less than ideal photographs. Scott G. Brown and Allan J. Pantuck bring ...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:06 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Replies: 21
Views: 244

Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter

StephenGoranson wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:47 am In my opinion.
Thank you for sharing your opinions here in this thread. :cheers:
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 47
Views: 459

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Conversation goes completely stale because you have nothing valid to say.

You keep saying invalid things, which are essentially the same things already said.

Then it's a "gotcha" if someone doesn't keep saying no.

Fun times in Ward 6, I guess.
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 47
Views: 459

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Giuseppe wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:11 pm What is interesting is the silence by Peter Kirby about the Klinghardt's words above: is this silence evidence that he agrees with K and me on this point?
So, again, no.
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 47
Views: 459

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Klinghardt gives me reason on this point: The Markan report of Jesus’ baptism not only places the beginning of the Gospel into a framework of salvation history, it also provides the opportunity to have God himself proclaim the true identity of Jesus as ‘my beloved son’ (Mark 1,11). Compared to Jesu...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 47
Views: 459

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Giuseppe wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:20 am Interestingly, Klinghardt means the Temptation Story as the proof that Jesus is really the son of YHWH.
But, no, it isn't.
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 47
Views: 459

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

In whiletime Peter Kirby continues to ignore the Klinghardt's argument above (that Mark 1:11 is revealing the identity of Jesus as son of a specific god: YHWH). It's not even properly an argument, as it doesn't lead from true premises in a sound way to a conclusion. It's just a claim. I can write &...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 47
Views: 459

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Giuseppe wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:11 pm What is interesting is the silence by Peter Kirby about the Klinghardt's words above: is this silence evidence that he agrees with K and me on this point?
No, so you're wrong again.
by Peter Kirby
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:14 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Replies: 21
Views: 244

Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter

These alternatives are presented primarily for pedagogical reasons. They help to illustrate the implications of the evidence.

The natural conclusion here is that the text is the Greek handwriting of someone who lived before the 20th century.