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- Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:54 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
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Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Nevertheless, a common response to Anastasopoulou is to just say no in response to the question in her title: https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/bible-interpretation/venetia-anastasopoulou-can-a-document-in-itself-reveal-a-forgery/ "Can a Document in Itself Reveal a Forge...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:42 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
- Replies: 11
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Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Another aspect studied by handwriting examination is rhythm: https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/wp-content/uploads/secret-mark-handwriting-response-brown.pdf Anastasopoulou refers to the rhythm of the writing four times, describing it as “ excellent ,” “ very good ,” and “ high level .” Although rh...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:31 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
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Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Another aspect of handwriting examination looks for natural variation within a writer's individual master pattern: When engaged in repetitive activities such as writing, humans lack the precision of machines; they therefore do not write words and individual letters exactly the same way each time. Wr...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:07 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
- Replies: 11
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Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Recall that: The fundamental difference between writing with one’s own handwriting and imitating someone else’s is that the former uses proprioceptive feedback (i.e. internal feedback that allows the body to keep track of the relative positions of its parts) while the latter is essentially drawing, ...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:51 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
- Replies: 11
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Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
As Brown notes, with reference to Anastasopoulou's report on the subject, a document like the Mar Saba fragment is particularly susceptible to a successful demonstration of its artificiality, if that were true about its handwriting: Forging a document is not a simple matter of picking up a pen and i...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:36 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
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Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Anastasopoulou commented: https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/bible-interpretation/venetia-anastasopoulou-can-a-document-in-itself-reveal-a-forgery/ When a large document is consistent, we have a first indication of genuineness and this applies to the Secret Mark letter. The Se...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:19 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
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Re: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
A few comments on handwriting analysis and on the Mar Saba letter that I have written are here:
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Where there's an expectation that comments made are based on mutual respect.
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Where there's an expectation that comments made are based on mutual respect.
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:14 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
- Replies: 11
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Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Something not done here by Tselikas -- such as providing comparison with other writing with respect to the amount of discontinuity in the writing -- can also be done at the descriptive level, in a verifiable way. This has been done by Timo S. Paananen and Roger Viklund, who (like most of us) also a...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:53 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
- Replies: 11
- Views: 67
Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Commenting outside of his own discipline, and writing after Anastasopoulou published, Tselikas offered criticism in category (b), stating that “the scribe of the letter would not use the own personal style” and implicitly rejected the validity of the methods used in handwriting examination when cons...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:36 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
- Replies: 11
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Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
https://tuhat.helsinki.fi/ws/files/125297411/An_Eighteenth_Century_Manuscript_FINAL_REVISION_v13_with_APOCRYPHA_modifications_with_language_check.pdf Tom Davis formulates the methodological basis of handwriting comparison in the following way: “a given writer will tend to produce writing that is idi...