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Marcion interpreted this verse to mean docetism : Jesus only appeared to be in the sinful flesh. No need of a Temptation Story because the divine Jesus was immunized a priori to it. Mark interpreted this verse to mean humanity of Jesus: Jesus was really 'in the sinful flesh', hence he problem had t...

andrewcriddle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:50 am I think that Origen believed that we can discover the hidden meaning of a Gospel narrative or parable by comparing the different versions of the same pericope found in the 4 canonical Gospels.

Yes, I've been reading a lot of Origen lately, and that is one approach he sometimes uses.

It's one thing for Marcion to say 'this was the original, that was an interpolation' when he does not know. It's another thing if Marcion originated the gospel text and wanted it to be accepted. In that case, transparency is unexpected. IMHO Marcion explicitly presented his Gospel text as a critica...

StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:40 am No, I mentioned Ben C. Smith as one indication why most scholars would not come or stay here.

I know that. I think everybody knows that.

Ben C. Smith, however, whom you seem to respect, had no relevant academic credentials (as you know).

Secret Alias wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:31 am I can remember spin (another guy who left this forum)

spin's still around a little. Just doesn't waste time with rehashing the same things over and over.

The comment "And we can only answer this question by appealing to polemical concerns" is not well argued.

Hebrews is working out a concept of a perfect sacrifice, in order to provide an explanation of how Jesus replaced once and for all the use of sacrifices.

None of the claims in this thread were well argued.

Origen was just talking about some who would object to explaining the secret and mystical things in the Gospel. in context: discussing The Parable of the Unforgiving Servant in Matthew 18 Immediately begins explaining a point here about the parable of the talents in Matthew // Luke, saying: "th...

But in this respect, how different was it really from its predecessors?

According to Heine's translation: "But someone will object that we act impiously when, because of the secret and mystical nature of some texts, we wish these to be indicative of the above writings and attempt to clarify them, even if it appears in theory that we know their intention precisely.&...