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- Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:15 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
- Replies: 26
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Re: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
Andrew, what things led you to this position? Ken, same question for you? I would appreciate any insight you could offer. I think that the most plausible reason for the unusual emphasis that Marcion put on Paul is that Paul's writings taught of the threat of Judaizers corrupting the Gospel. This th...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:11 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
- Replies: 17
- Views: 120
Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
And somehow only Marcionites ever considered the idea that humans are sinful, so it relates to Marcionism... that is indeed the implication, since it is a fact that "only Marcionites ever considered the idea that human births are sinful , so the birth via holy spirit relates to Marcionism"...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:10 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
- Replies: 17
- Views: 120
Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
(...continuing...) Mark emphasizes the difference between the Jesus before the baptism, a sinful Jesus in need of purification via baptism ...and the Jesus after the baptism: a Jesus defended successfully by the holy spirit against the temptations in the wilderness. Hence it is self-evident that Ma...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:08 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
- Replies: 81
- Views: 613
Re: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
Can we have some more information?Secret Alias wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:52 am Except for the fact that a certificate of authenticity was issued in 1976 and brought forward by Tselikas.
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:59 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
- Replies: 17
- Views: 120
Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Marcion interpreted this verse to mean docetism : Jesus only appeared to be in the sinful flesh. No need of a Temptation Story because the divine Jesus was immunized a priori to it. Mark interpreted this verse to mean humanity of Jesus: Jesus was really 'in the sinful flesh', hence he problem had t...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:55 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Origen's interesting ideas
- Replies: 12
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Re: Origen's interesting ideas
Yes, I've been reading a lot of Origen lately, and that is one approach he sometimes uses.andrewcriddle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:50 am I think that Origen believed that we can discover the hidden meaning of a Gospel narrative or parable by comparing the different versions of the same pericope found in the 4 canonical Gospels.
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:52 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
- Replies: 26
- Views: 336
Re: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
It's one thing for Marcion to say 'this was the original, that was an interpolation' when he does not know. It's another thing if Marcion originated the gospel text and wanted it to be accepted. In that case, transparency is unexpected. IMHO Marcion explicitly presented his Gospel text as a critica...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:42 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
- Replies: 81
- Views: 613
Re: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
I know that. I think everybody knows that.StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:40 am No, I mentioned Ben C. Smith as one indication why most scholars would not come or stay here.
Ben C. Smith, however, whom you seem to respect, had no relevant academic credentials (as you know).
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:40 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
- Replies: 81
- Views: 613
Re: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
spin's still around a little. Just doesn't waste time with rehashing the same things over and over.
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:19 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
- Replies: 17
- Views: 120
Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
The comment "And we can only answer this question by appealing to polemical concerns" is not well argued.