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by Peter Kirby
Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The closing chapters of 1 Clement
Replies: 33
Views: 8897

Re: The closing chapters of 1 Clement

This board and its predecessors (Free Ratio DB and Internet Infidels DB) *used* to be keen on looking at the source texts rather than argumentation by citing authorities about content & dates, but that does not seem to be of interest in this thread. i think it's of interest. I appreciated the table...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The closing chapters of 1 Clement
Replies: 33
Views: 8897

Re: The closing chapters of 1 Clement

Hi all, I notice that the Roberts-Donaldson translation of 1 Clement (found on EarlyChristianWritings.com ) concludes at chapter 59, whereas Lightfoot and Hoole's goes all the way to chapter 65. I think I recall reading somewhere that some have proposed the final 5 chapters are a later interpolatio...
by Peter Kirby
Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 8627

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

I take it, you were raised as an atheist? No, I was not. My parents were Christian. I went to church on Sunday. My siblings and I had 12 years of Catholic school education. I went to an all-boys high school. We had a picture of Jesus on the wall near the stairs at home; maybe you've seen it before....
by Peter Kirby
Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 8627

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

If his article was published in 2002 it must have been written in something like 2000. That's 18 years ago. He doesn't even look 38 now. But still, he was 20 when he wrote that? It was based on this webpage (2001): https://infidels.org/library/modern/peter_kirby/tomb/ There were several trips to th...
by Peter Kirby
Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Codex Sinaiticus - the white parchment Friderico-Augustanus
Replies: 343
Views: 79098

Re: Codex Sinaiticus - the white parchment Friderico-Augustanus

For the Codex Sinaiticus not to under go such testing is inexcusable, (barring lack of funding). Speculatively, here are three reasons manuscripts might not get tested: 1) Inertia, property rights, and a philosophy of custodial duty that tends towards conservation. 2) Limited upside. Acceptable con...
by Peter Kirby
Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Could 'Irenaeus' Have Been Julius Sextus Africanus?
Replies: 14
Views: 2751

Re: Could 'Irenaeus' Have Been Julius Sextus Africanus?

Gibsonology wins the game by KO.

Time to shut it all down, folks.
by Peter Kirby
Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Sixtus or Xystus
Replies: 2
Views: 833

Re: Sixtus or Xystus

Ethan wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:45 am
Just another fictional character.
How is that known?
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Could 'Irenaeus' Have Been Julius Sextus Africanus?
Replies: 14
Views: 2751

Re: Could 'Irenaeus' Have Been Julius Sextus Africanus?

Cest . 5.51 refers to Aelia Capitolina as "the old home" ( arxaia patris ). I presume the implication is Aelia Capitolina was Africanus' home/birth place. If so, what would his parents' ethnicity or religious have been, beyond 'Gentile'? It would be good to be able to discern what religion/s many o...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Could 'Irenaeus' Have Been Julius Sextus Africanus?
Replies: 14
Views: 2751

Re: Could 'Irenaeus' Have Been Julius Sextus Africanus?

Interestingly the traditional dating for Julius Africanus's birth was before 160 CE. This would have allowed him to say with Irenaeus that he saw Polycarp as a young boy. If Julius Africanus was a native of Palestine / Aelia Capitolina, then that is a long ways from Asia Minor / Smyrna, for a young...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius Dates Hegesippus to the "Generation After the Apostles"
Replies: 10
Views: 1147

Re: Eusebius Dates Hegesippus to the "Generation After the Apostles"

Exactly. But remember that while Hegesippus/Josephus has obvious time markers for the 10th year of Antoninus (147 CE) the problem scholars have is that the succession list in Rome has been extended to late second century (i.e. Eleutherius). The bottom line is that any scholar who speaks about Heges...