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by Peter Kirby
Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 53
Views: 369

Re: History trumps Theology

maryhelena wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:25 am What slogans have I been posting for years ? I'm curious about what specific 'slogans' you found objectionable ?
You employ the word "history" as slogan that magically supports whatever you want to say, but you don't do any history.
by Peter Kirby
Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 53
Views: 369

Re: History trumps Theology

It's just another variation of slinging slogans instead of providing analysis that is the nature of your posting. You're right about one thing. Trying to discuss your slogans is actually pretty boring.
by Peter Kirby
Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: According to Irenaeus, who were the Gnostics?
Replies: 17
Views: 231

Re: According to Irenaeus, who were the Gnostics?

In book 2, Irenaeus has a reference re: "these same arguments will apply against the followers of Saturninus, Basilides, Carpocrates, and the rest of the Gnostics." This might seem to imply that Saturninus, Basilides, and Carpocrates were gnostics. Birger A. Pearson makes reference to Boo...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 450
Views: 13734

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

Just putting this here so I can look into it later. Origen, Contra Celsum, 4.51 I know, moreover, that Numenius the Pythagorean--a surpassingly excellent expounder of Plato, and who held a foremost place as a teacher of the doctrines of Pythagoras--in many of his works quotes from the writings of M...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Numenius "On the Good": (1) Agathos, (2) Nous, (3) Demiurge
Replies: 1
Views: 23

Re: Numenius: (1) Agathos, (2) Nous, (3) Demiurge

On the Good by Numenius is such a rich topic. I hope it can be explored further.
by Peter Kirby
Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Numenius "On the Good": (1) Agathos, (2) Nous, (3) Demiurge
Replies: 1
Views: 23

Numenius "On the Good": (1) Agathos, (2) Nous, (3) Demiurge

Numenius was a philosopher with an interest in metaphysics, who (among other things) wrote a work in six books titled On the Good . Like other philosophers, he considered that there was some kind of Pythagorean knowledge transmitted to and revealed by the Attic philosophers. The wisdom of Pythagoras...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: According to Irenaeus, who were the Gnostics?
Replies: 17
Views: 231

Re: According to Irenaeus, who were the Gnostics?

In book 2, Irenaeus has a reference re: "these same arguments will apply against the followers of Saturninus, Basilides, Carpocrates, and the rest of the Gnostics." This might seem to imply that Saturninus, Basilides, and Carpocrates were gnostics. Birger A. Pearson makes reference to Boo...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 53
Views: 369

Re: History trumps Theology

That's funny because you've been posting these slogans for years and now declare a discussion of what they mean or imply "boring."
by Peter Kirby
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 53
Views: 369

Re: History trumps Theology

It means what it says. History and theology are not equal methods for the task of understanding the past. Can you provide an example of a time when someone on the forum employed a "method" of "theology" for "understanding the past"? I'm stating a fundamental principle ...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 53
Views: 369

Re: History trumps Theology

That history trumps theology is surely a fundamental approach to intellectual deliberations. What does the slogan mean? It means what it says. History and theology are not equal methods for the task of understanding the past. Can you provide an example of a time when someone on the forum employed a...