A few comments on handwriting analysis and on the Mar Saba letter that I have written are here:
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- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:19 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
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- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:14 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
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Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Something not done here by Tselikas -- such as providing comparison with other writing with respect to the amount of discontinuity in the writing -- can also be done at the descriptive level, in a verifiable way. This has been done by Timo S. Paananen and Roger Viklund, who (like most of us) also a...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:53 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
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Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Commenting outside of his own discipline, and writing after Anastasopoulou published, Tselikas offered criticism in category (b), stating that “the scribe of the letter would not use the own personal style” and implicitly rejected the validity of the methods used in handwriting examination when cons...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:36 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
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Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
https://tuhat.helsinki.fi/ws/files/125297411/An_Eighteenth_Century_Manuscript_FINAL_REVISION_v13_with_APOCRYPHA_modifications_with_language_check.pdf Tom Davis formulates the methodological basis of handwriting comparison in the following way: “a given writer will tend to produce writing that is idi...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:39 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
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Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Forensic document examiners have a genuine area of expertise. For example, here is a 450 page monograph based on empirical studies, involving collecting data about handwriting, that documents characteristics of disguised writing: https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/20535754.pdf As an area of expertise, ...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:25 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
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Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
At the time that Tselikas was asked for his expert opinion as a paleographer, and by the same people (BAR), the professional forensic document examiner Venetia Anastasopoulou was simultaneously being asked to publish. https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/wp-content/uploads/secret-mark-handwriting-res...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:34 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
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Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
I made an earlier post in a similar thread here To paraphrase: Tselikas did not strictly speaking establish that the handwriting is later than the 18th century, What Tselikas did claim to establish is that although the handwriting is in one sense an 18th century Greek cursive, the scribe is not wri...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:38 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Morton Smith, Private Teaching, and γυμνὸς γυμνῷ
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Morton Smith, Private Teaching, and γυμνὸς γυμνῷ
The Mar Saba letter has the plural here (iota, not sigma): https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=169090#p169090 https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=169661#p169661 https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=169711#p169711 So the question of how Morton Smith interpreted the ...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:20 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
- Replies: 200
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Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
SA, for clarity, Smith's Greek text is a "transcription" and an error there would be transcribed incorrectly.
Which is a somewhat more relevant point than just saying mistranslated.
Which is a somewhat more relevant point than just saying mistranslated.
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:08 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Origen's interesting ideas
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Re: Origen's interesting ideas
There's something to this. But we ought to think in a general way about every parable, the interpretation of which has not been recorded by the evangelists, even though Jesus explained all things to His own disciples privately; [Mark 4:34] According to Heine's translation: "But someone will obj...