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by Peter Kirby
Wed May 01, 2024 9:49 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 116
Views: 17276

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

I just want to cite Paananen and Viklund again because it seems they also think it's a sigma Yes, that's what they wrote. I like Panaanen and Viklund, and they made some good points, which I have quoted. If nothing else, however, this thread justifies moving beyond just citing this claim. Viklund o...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:54 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 116
Views: 17276

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

If I knew nothing else about The Letter to Theodore and you had sent me images of the three pages and asked me what the word in dispute on III 18 is, I would almost certainly have said it was γυμνοί with a final Iota because one of basic rules of Greek is that accents go over vowels. That's the qui...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:08 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 116
Views: 17276

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

I have heard from a couple experts here myself. They have noted (a) that the character here starts out going southeast/northwest [atypical for sigma], (b) that the stroke is unbroken [not observed in sigmas], and (c) that the accent placed directly over the character is indicative in this case. A f...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:45 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 116
Views: 17276

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

But if you want a true apples-to-apples comparison, you can send me a higher quality version. For the purpose of apples-to-apples comparison, I have sent you a Google drive link with the (circa 300MB each) bitmap files of all three pages. I have additionally sent the same invitation link to Ken Ols...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Invention of Macrina the Younger?
Replies: 14
Views: 294

Re: Invention of Macrina the Younger?

It seems prima-facie improbable that Gregory Nazianzen and Gregory of Nyssa should collaborate on the invention of a fictional Macrina the supposed sister of Basil and Gregory of Nyssa. It may well be that much of what Gregory of Nyssa says about his sister is hagiography not history but that is an...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:24 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 116
Views: 17276

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

The manipulated images are capable of minimizing visual information that one's eye and brain can pick up to tell whether edges are created by a break in direction of the stroke or other factors, including especially the thickness of the line created by the ink of the pen, which in the case of the ch...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:36 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 116
Views: 17276

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

I have heard from a couple experts here myself. They have noted (a) that the character here starts out going southeast/northwest [atypical for sigma], (b) that the stroke is unbroken [not observed in sigmas], and (c) that the accent placed directly over the character is indicative in this case.
by Peter Kirby
Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:29 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Replies: 116
Views: 17276

Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?

AdamKvanta wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:56 am How about this?
I don't think untrained use of image manipulation programs is the answer.