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by Peter Kirby
Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Could 'Irenaeus' Have Been Julius Sextus Africanus?
Replies: 7
Views: 107

Re: Could 'Irenaeus' Have Been Julius Sextus Africanus?

Cest . 5.51 refers to Aelia Capitolina as "the old home" ( arxaia patris ). I presume the implication is Aelia Capitolina was Africanus' home/birth place. If so, what would his parents' ethnicity or religious have been, beyond 'Gentile'? It would be good to be able to discern what religion/s many o...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Could 'Irenaeus' Have Been Julius Sextus Africanus?
Replies: 7
Views: 107

Re: Could 'Irenaeus' Have Been Julius Sextus Africanus?

Interestingly the traditional dating for Julius Africanus's birth was before 160 CE. This would have allowed him to say with Irenaeus that he saw Polycarp as a young boy. If Julius Africanus was a native of Palestine / Aelia Capitolina, then that is a long ways from Asia Minor / Smyrna, for a young...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius Dates Hegesippus to the "Generation After the Apostles"
Replies: 10
Views: 96

Re: Eusebius Dates Hegesippus to the "Generation After the Apostles"

Exactly. But remember that while Hegesippus/Josephus has obvious time markers for the 10th year of Antoninus (147 CE) the problem scholars have is that the succession list in Rome has been extended to late second century (i.e. Eleutherius). The bottom line is that any scholar who speaks about Heges...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius Dates Hegesippus to the "Generation After the Apostles"
Replies: 10
Views: 96

Re: Eusebius Dates Hegesippus to the "Generation After the Apostles"

I have previously explored many aspects of "Hegesippus" here: http://peterkirby.com/chasing-hegesippus.html More people should be aware of the details involved in trying to date the work of "Hegesippus." Book IV, Chapter 6 [of Eusebius], discusses the revolt under Hadrian. Chapter 7 discusses hereti...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius Dates Hegesippus to the "Generation After the Apostles"
Replies: 10
Views: 96

Re: Eusebius Dates Hegesippus to the "Generation After the Apostles"

Eusebius refers to Hegesippus for a statement where "heresy" became popular after the last apostles died, under Trajan. http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.viii.xxxii.html 6. He [Hegesippus] writes as follows: “They came, therefore, and took the lead of every church884 as witnesses885 and as...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius Dates Hegesippus to the "Generation After the Apostles"
Replies: 10
Views: 96

Re: Eusebius Dates Hegesippus to the "Generation After the Apostles"

We have pretty direct indications regarding what era Eusebius considered to be the apostolic period. https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.viii.xxiii.html 1. At that time the apostle and evangelist John, the one whom Jesus loved, was still living in Asia, and governing the churches of that re...
by Peter Kirby
Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Great Brent Nongbri's New Book Out in August
Replies: 2
Views: 124

Re: The Great Brent Nongbri's New Book Out in August

In this bold and groundbreaking book, Brent Nongbri provides an up-to-date introduction to the major collections of early Christian manuscripts and demonstrates that much of what we thought we knew about these books and fragments is mistaken. While biblical scholars have expended much effort in the...
by Peter Kirby
Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thomas Scott - Irenaeus Never Existed
Replies: 17
Views: 371

Re: Thomas Scott - Irenaeus Never Existed

MrMacSon wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:05 am
andrewcriddle wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:14 am
It dates from c 200 CE therefore it implies a date of Against Heresies (of which it is a fragment) of no later than say 185 CE ...
Cheers. On what basis does P Oxy 405 imply a date of Against Heresies of no later than say 185 CE?
It’s a fragment of Against Heresies.
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: a new 'Mythicist' commentary on Mark
Replies: 21
Views: 409

Re: a new 'Mythicist' commentary on Mark

Beverly Devry-Smith wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:45 am
I do need to figure out how to do something about the full chapters being out of order on my blog,
I think it's fine to maintain the reverse order that is natural to blogs. It's an understood convention.

(At least, while it's still being written. Maybe republish again when it's done.)
by Peter Kirby
Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:58 pm
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: Jordan Peterson
Replies: 9
Views: 6549

Re: Jordan Peterson

I was sympathetic to his depiction of the somewhat adrift individual, in the absence of religion, grasping on to one or another vessel for a religion substitute which, while not so directly conflicting with the known facts of science as something like traditionalist Christianity does, perhaps falls...