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by GakuseiDon
Fri May 17, 2024 3:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does ransom theory indicate Jesus was heavenly?
Replies: 10
Views: 229

Re: Does ransom theory indicate Jesus was heavenly?

The Gospel of Luke also describes the archontes as being responsible for crucifying Christ: that is precisely an independent euhemerization from the euhemerization of Jesus himself. Another example is this . Obviously the point is valid only under the authenticity of the epistles. Well, that's the ...
by GakuseiDon
Thu May 16, 2024 11:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does ransom theory indicate Jesus was heavenly?
Replies: 10
Views: 229

Re: Does ransom theory indicate Jesus was heavenly?

Wells confutes your "if and only if" on Paul: Perhaps Doherty's strongest point is Paul's assertion (1 Cor.2:8) that Jesus was crucified by supernatural forces (the archontes ). I take this to mean that they prompted the action of human agents: but I must admit that the text ascribes the ...
by GakuseiDon
Wed May 15, 2024 2:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Excerpts from Volkmar, 'The Religion of Jesus,' 1857
Replies: 13
Views: 340

Re: Excerpts from Volkmar, 'The Religion of Jesus,' 1857

Was this "church/assembly of God" fully foreign, or was it a Romanized version of Judaism? That's unclear, but it is clear that Paul recognized it as not "traditionally Jewish". That's right. As Paul explains he went from being "extremely zealous for my ancestral traditions...
by GakuseiDon
Sun May 12, 2024 9:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Rome and early Christianity
Replies: 8
Views: 412

Re: Rome and early Christianity

Religions such as Mithraism and Christianity may have been attempted eventually to be co-opted, but were not original to Rome. It may not be related to the theories you are referring to, but I think a case could be made that Christianity was original to Rome. Rather than co-opted by Rome though, Ro...
by GakuseiDon
Fri May 03, 2024 2:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 115
Views: 7477

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

I take Tertullian to be saying that Jews called Jesus a Nazarene because he was a Nazirite in accordance with naziritism the OT. It has nothing to do with belief in anything. It's just a matter of fact. If Jews had called him Jesus the Carpenter, I suppose Tertullian would have said it was in accor...
by GakuseiDon
Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: External evidence that (Matthew and) canonical Luke comes after *Ev
Replies: 13
Views: 827

Re: External evidence that (Matthew and) canonical Luke comes after *Ev

The religious content market works like any other. There is some content offer from which market players select products and attack selected groups of consumers. If you choose or create niche products for a niche group, you will lose because in religion the most important thing is the territorial s...
by GakuseiDon
Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 115
Views: 7477

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

One possibility (possibly wrong) is that Marcion (or his literary aid/s) worked from a manuscript of Luke and from a manuscript of Matthew to attempt to present the authentic, un-interpolated original Gospel. Assuming he worked from those manuscripts, then: what was he working with ? Insight, revel...
by GakuseiDon
Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 115
Views: 7477

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

That, I think, is Marcionism. I am Marcion, the Man of Pontus, because we are all Marcion, Man of Pontus. Each of us attempts to recreate the world to fit how we can best economize it to suite our understanding of it so we can cope and survive. Marcion is human psychology. Marcion is human philosop...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'
Replies: 11
Views: 1144

Re: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'

spin wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:32 pm(And GakuseiDon whinces, "Oh no, not another fabricated interpolation!?")
Haha, true! But what you write makes a lot of sense.
by GakuseiDon
Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'
Replies: 11
Views: 1144

Re: Paul's use of or references to 'gospel'

Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;