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by GakuseiDon
Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:33 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier and the burial in heaven.
Replies: 43
Views: 35275

Re: Richard Carrier and the burial in heaven.

I know this is an old thread, but Dr Carrier recently blogged about Adam's burial in the Third Heaven, explaining his view. I thought it worth adding the link here for completeness only, not to start up the conversation again:
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/16930
by GakuseiDon
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 2 Corinthians 12 - Paul's friend is Jesus, not himself
Replies: 7
Views: 1260

Re: 2 Corinthians 12 - Paul's friend is Jesus, not himself

I have my own ideas on what is going on there, based on nothing else than my reading of the English translation. So take the following with a huge heap of salt: to me, it sounds like Paul is being sarcastic, and is having a dig at either James or Peter, probably Peter. The key passages in 2 Cor: 12 ...
by GakuseiDon
Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: NT misquotes of the OT
Replies: 16
Views: 7151

Re: NT misquotes of the OT

In my notes, I ran across a copy of this one page, attached only to a copy the title page and relevant bibliography page. It’s from Reinventing Paul , by John G. Gager, Oxford Univ. Press, 2000, page 149 --- "Paul’s mode of argumentation was consistently biblical … At virtually every turn he cites ...
by GakuseiDon
Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: NT misquotes of the OT
Replies: 16
Views: 7151

Re: NT misquotes of the OT

Thanks robert j, but my point isn't that Paul was creative in his use of scriptures -- he obviously was. But was there any push-back on what he did? Did anyone back then say "Hey, Paul got scripture wrong!" ... It seems that those influencing the Galatians did, and apparently some within his Galati...
by GakuseiDon
Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: NT misquotes of the OT
Replies: 16
Views: 7151

Re: NT misquotes of the OT

The best reference that I have found to help understand Paul’s creative use of the Scriptures is, Echoes of Scripture in the Letters of Paul , 1989, by Richard B. Hays, (then) Assoc. Professor, Duke University [highlighting mine] --- Thanks robert j, but my point isn't that Paul was creative in his...
by GakuseiDon
Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: NT misquotes of the OT
Replies: 16
Views: 7151

Re: NT misquotes of the OT

I think there is a general sense that "this sort of thing happened a lot," though I am not sure to what extent this general sense is "the reason" for the tendency. At least Sanday and Headlam point to the Psalm and suggest the source of the variant, but yes, it may be more common in the commentarie...
by GakuseiDon
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: NT misquotes of the OT
Replies: 16
Views: 7151

Re: NT misquotes of the OT

Sanday and Headlam agree with your study notes about the wording of the Isaiah quotation having been influenced by the Psalm: Thanks for the link, Ben. I had a look at it. What is interesting to me is that in the commentaries I've seen, no-one seems to try to explain what Paul is doing in those pas...
by GakuseiDon
Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: NT misquotes of the OT
Replies: 16
Views: 7151

Re: NT misquotes of the OT

How many passages in the New Testament are blatant misquotes of what has been stated in the Old Testament? There are also times where Paul takes two or more separate passages from the Old Testament, and joins them as though they were a single quote. An example is Rom 11:26-27: 26. And so all Israel...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Both Paul and Minucius Felix had a problem with euhemerizers
Replies: 59
Views: 20902

Re: Both Paul and Minucius Felix had a problem with euhemerizers

There was about a decade of my life during which I identified as a Christian but was essentially agnostic about Jesus' existence... The two things — Jesus' historicity and my own Christianity — just do not relate to one another in any meaningful way. I think that's true for a lot of Christians, inc...
by GakuseiDon
Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Both Paul and Minucius Felix had a problem with euhemerizers
Replies: 59
Views: 20902

Re: Both Paul and Minucius Felix had a problem with euhemerizers

Paradoxically, I am more near to GDon, here. You would have noted the (apparently unexpected) GDon's rapidity to post in the only threads where I argue for a crucifixion in Outer Space. He tacitly is assuming that mythicists à la Wells are crypto-historicists. Hence he doesn't waste his time to con...