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by maryhelena
Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 34
Views: 503

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

Are you contending that these people thought that the figure of IS XS appeared in history as a god, or a deity, or a spirit, or a mythological being rather than a historical "fleshy" human being? That's right. So if Marcion, for example, had a time machine, he'd have thought he could go b...
by maryhelena
Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is implied if Jesus' historicity was not doubted?
Replies: 17
Views: 205

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

GD's question has merit, its perfectly fine to catalogue such statements. OK.... catalogue away.... 😁 I think a more pertinent question, however, is whether there was anyone who expressed any knowledge of a Jesus person independent of the Gospel accounts. To my knowledge there is no evidence for an...
by maryhelena
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is implied if Jesus' historicity was not doubted?
Replies: 17
Views: 205

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

GDon The title of your thread asked the question: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted? Your OP went on to define what you mean by 'historical Jesus'. ' 'By 'historical Jesus', I mean a figure living around 30 CE who inspired the Gospel stories, even if the Gospel stories th...
by maryhelena
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is implied if Jesus' historicity was not doubted?
Replies: 17
Views: 205

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

GDon The title of your thread asked the question: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted? Your OP went on to define what you mean by 'historical Jesus'. ' 'By 'historical Jesus', I mean a figure living around 30 CE who inspired the Gospel stories, even if the Gospel stories the...
by maryhelena
Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Easter, Eostre
Replies: 11
Views: 520

Re: Easter, Eostre

@maryhelena, that hot cross bun with a tick is just wrong! :D That'll never take off. I certainly wouldn't buy them. Your probably right..... A boycott could make Iceland think again. However..... Nike look to be keeping their change of the colouring of the England flag on football clothes. From re...
by maryhelena
Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is implied if Jesus' historicity was not doubted?
Replies: 17
Views: 205

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

As you indicated above re my question on crucifixion - ''not necessarily I suppose' - then, I would suggest, that is a good starting point when looking for a figure, during the time of Tiberius and Pilate, that might have left his footprint..... Fair point, but this thread isn't about looking for s...
by maryhelena
Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 34
Views: 503

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

Was your 'figure living around 30 CE who inspired the Gospel stories' crucified ? Hmmm... not even if the Gospel stories themselves are false.I suppose. It's the time-travel test: if you can take a time machine back to around that time period could you meet the person who inspired the development o...
by maryhelena
Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 34
Views: 503

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

I thought I'd start a new thread here rather than interrupt the one here: https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11683 By 'historical Jesus', I mean a figure living around 30 CE who inspired the Gospel stories, even if the Gospel stories themselves are false. Was your 'figure livin...
by maryhelena
Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
Replies: 62
Views: 839

Re: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus

Because I am tired to hear the apologetical motive that none doubted about the historicity of Jesus in the Antiquity. What people believed - christian 'fathers' - in Antiquity is of no benefit to a historical investigation of the gospel Jesus story. Today, as in the past, people believe all sorts o...
by maryhelena
Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Easter, Eostre
Replies: 11
Views: 520

Re: Easter, Eostre

Goodness, never did I think when saying (in another thread)....'ditch the cross of Calvary' - that it's demise this Easter would be reported in the newspapers.... Iceland sells hot cross buns with tick instead of cross Supermarket trial provokes anger among Christian groups who say tradition is stil...