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by DCHindley
Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The closing chapters of 1 Clement
Replies: 22
Views: 366

Re: The closing chapters of 1 Clement

This board and its predecessors (Free Ratio DB and Internet Infidels DB) *used* to be keen on looking at the source texts rather than argumentation by citing authorities about content & dates, but that does not seem to be of interest in this thread. What follows is my own "has-to-be-wrong" but serio...
by DCHindley
Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The closing chapters of 1 Clement
Replies: 22
Views: 366

Re: The closing chapters of 1 Clement

Andrew, I can understand not being sure about the author's place in episcopal succession at Rome due to contradictory lists that were in circulation, but what do you think about the authenticity of the letter itself? Naturally, the fact that two mss exist with one (ms. A) not having certain text (e....
by DCHindley
Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The closing chapters of 1 Clement
Replies: 22
Views: 366

Re: The closing chapters of 1 Clement

The translator of ANF 10 (9 on the internet) explained is thusly: Additional Introduction [to 1st Clement]. Towards the close of 1875, at Constantinople, Philotheus Bryennius, Metropolitan of Serrae, published the first complete edition of the epistles ascribed to Clement. This he was enabled to do ...
by DCHindley
Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jörg Rüpke on early Christianity in 'Pantheon: A New History of Roman Religion'
Replies: 36
Views: 765

Re: Jörg Rüpke on early Christianity in 'Pantheon: A New History of Roman Religion'

I got the impression that Rüpke was using the concept of Religion as if the whole academic debate over its artificiality and anachronistic nature when projected into the past had never happened ... I am still reading Pantheon , but have posted what I think are three key excerpts in this thread - 1....
by DCHindley
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jörg Rüpke on early Christianity in 'Pantheon: A New History of Roman Religion'
Replies: 36
Views: 765

Re: Jörg Rüpke on early Christianity in 'Pantheon: A New History of Roman Religion'

This recent Aeon article - 'Is religion a universal in human culture or an academic invention?' - provides interesting commentary which, in part, seems to align with what Rüpke is proposing in Pantheon - the late Jonathan Zittell Smith, arguably the most influential scholar of religion of the past ...
by DCHindley
Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The closing chapters of 1 Clement
Replies: 22
Views: 366

Re: The closing chapters of 1 Clement

Hi all, I notice that the Roberts-Donaldson translation of 1 Clement (found on EarlyChristianWritings.com ) concludes at chapter 59, whereas Lightfoot and Hoole's goes all the way to chapter 65. I think I recall reading somewhere that some have proposed the final 5 chapters are a later interpolatio...
by DCHindley
Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Three different reasons to kill Jesus (if you are one of the 'Rulers of this Age')
Replies: 32
Views: 433

Re: Three different reasons to kill Jesus (if you are one of the 'Rulers of this Age')

In the classic sense, demons were spiritual beings under direction of the creator God the same as angels. The demons were the "elementals" commanded by angels, doing the heavy work like cause or heal sicknesses, control weather, etc., and angels were in turn under the command of the creator God, dir...
by DCHindley
Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jörg Rüpke on early Christianity in 'Pantheon: A New History of Roman Religion'
Replies: 36
Views: 765

Re: Jörg Rüpke on early Christianity in 'Pantheon: A New History of Roman Religion'

In the introduction to Dieter T. Roth's article, "Marcion’s Gospel and Luke: The History of Research in Current Debate" (JBL 127, no. 3, 2008, pp 513–527), he says: [513]The issue of the relationship between Luke and Marcion’s Gospel has been revived recently in several discussions of Marcion and Lu...
by DCHindley
Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jörg Rüpke on early Christianity in 'Pantheon: A New History of Roman Religion'
Replies: 36
Views: 765

Re: Jörg Rüpke on early Christianity in 'Pantheon: A New History of Roman Religion'

It's a funny case, as you [as an amateur] probably wouldn't know from [Trobish's] published articles that you can easily download, but he gave this lecture/sermon hybrid in some church three years ago, where he gets very clear on his thoughts regarding this issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm...
by DCHindley
Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jörg Rüpke on early Christianity in 'Pantheon: A New History of Roman Religion'
Replies: 36
Views: 765

Re: Jörg Rüpke on early Christianity in 'Pantheon: A New History of Roman Religion'

The other point of contention is, of course, [Rüpke's] adaptation of what is described as Markus Vinzent's ideas about the origin of Christianity. It's really hard to judge a book from reviews, so I won't. However, though the "Marcion first" hypothesis is definitely not the leading hypothesis of Ch...